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Glasgow Airport Rail link should connect to the full rail network
Punch-up amongst the railway commentariat about the virtues of the proposed tram-train. In today's Herald Christian Wolmar points out that a heavy rail scheme fully connected to the rest of Scotland could be built for about the same price as a tram-train which only runs to overcrowded Glasgow Central station.
Mr Wolmar said: "Building a tram/train system to Glasgow Airport rather than a full rail link is a short term fix that will be poorly used and fails to address the main source of demand. Glasgow, as Scotland’s biggest city, needs an airport that is reached easily from around Scotland, not just Glasgow city centre."
He said council leaders should instead consider local transport campaigners' vision for a heavy rail link, known as NEWgarl, which they claim could be delivered for £137m.
Expert warns against "short-term fix" of tram-train rail link at Glasgow Airport (From Herald Scotland)
Mr Wolmar said: "Building a tram/train system to Glasgow Airport rather than a full rail link is a short term fix that will be poorly used and fails to address the main source of demand. Glasgow, as Scotland’s biggest city, needs an airport that is reached easily from around Scotland, not just Glasgow city centre."
He said council leaders should instead consider local transport campaigners' vision for a heavy rail link, known as NEWgarl, which they claim could be delivered for £137m.
Expert warns against "short-term fix" of tram-train rail link at Glasgow Airport (From Herald Scotland)
It has been clear since the re-birth of the Scottish Parliament and its civil service that their collective mission is to ensure that Edinburgh is Scotland's major hub.
Money is no object when it comes to Edinburgh projects such as unnecessary trams and bridges. But the Crossrail scheme might take traffic away from Edinburgh airport -although that has already been expanded out of its comfort zone.
Therefore it has little chance of being approved - however sensible a case can be made.
Money is no object when it comes to Edinburgh projects such as unnecessary trams and bridges. But the Crossrail scheme might take traffic away from Edinburgh airport -although that has already been expanded out of its comfort zone.
Therefore it has little chance of being approved - however sensible a case can be made.
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apart from spotters complaining about routes and pax no's at EDI im not sure it is 'clear' that all resources from SG are being directed to EDI is it? Sounds fanciful. Its the tourist nature of EDI that has aided its growth.
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It has been clear since the re-birth of the Scottish Parliament and its civil service that their collective mission is to ensure that Edinburgh is Scotland's major hub.
Its the tourist nature of EDI that has aided its growth.
PIK is irrelevent as even with the sheer volume of money thrown at it, Ryanair still moved the bulk of their operation to GLA. However the idea of either airport as functioning hub is a misconception, Vernon Murphy et al found that out in the early 90s. They are loco bases and legacy spokes, the only hub in Scotland is Loganair at GLA and to a leser extend EDI.
It seems like yesterday they shelved the GARL, it's becoming our own railtrack version of LHR #3 IMHO.
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Tram-train's are operating in quite few EU countries already.
And by co-incidence the first Tram-train set for testing purposes in the UK arrived only a few days ago.
There are to be tests on the Sheffield network with an extension over the Network Rail lines from Meadowhall into Rotherham in around a years time.
The main concerns of the rail industry are potential crash resistance and tyre wear as rails have differing profiles.
On satisfactory completion of tests the Manchester system may move forward to converting a number of suburban routes from heavy rail to Tram-train.
All irrelevant to Glasgow through.
And by co-incidence the first Tram-train set for testing purposes in the UK arrived only a few days ago.
There are to be tests on the Sheffield network with an extension over the Network Rail lines from Meadowhall into Rotherham in around a years time.
The main concerns of the rail industry are potential crash resistance and tyre wear as rails have differing profiles.
On satisfactory completion of tests the Manchester system may move forward to converting a number of suburban routes from heavy rail to Tram-train.
All irrelevant to Glasgow through.
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Here is the little Hawker Beechcraft 1000 again
This flight happens about once a week, out from Glasgow GLA and over top of Ireland and back in a loop, anyone know what it is doing?
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This flight happens about once a week, out from Glasgow GLA and over top of Ireland and back in a loop, anyone know what it is doing?
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Can anyone shed any light on what's going on in the departures area?
It's been a building site for quite a few months now.
The blue boarded up shops extend all the way along the whole wall of this part of the terminal.
It's all a bit dismal.
Is there a new restaurant opening where Frankie and bennys used to be?
It's been a building site for quite a few months now.
The blue boarded up shops extend all the way along the whole wall of this part of the terminal.
It's all a bit dismal.
Is there a new restaurant opening where Frankie and bennys used to be?
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Utterly bizarre use of a tram train. I thought the accepted logic was that you use them on proper rails outside the most congested routes, and that they then go on-road once in city centres where the railways have capacity problems that would be difficult to solve / inconveniently sited stations?
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I am wondering why options for building a new station near the end of the runway (M8/A737 interchange area) and build an air rail link similar to that of Birmingham Airport. the distance seems to be around the same. Appreciate it would need to go over/under the motorway but surely doing something like that would be better than this odd tram/train idea.
The trains between Glasgow and Greenock are pretty frequent to make this work.
The trains between Glasgow and Greenock are pretty frequent to make this work.
Third time lucky?
In fairness, the last try with British European operating CRJs was killed by Ryanair on PIK-CRL, this harks back to the original AF924 / 921 operation where the mainline B732 used to overnight in ABZ and depart GLA early morning. And now I feel old(er).
Wonder how this will impact on easyJet?
In fairness, the last try with British European operating CRJs was killed by Ryanair on PIK-CRL, this harks back to the original AF924 / 921 operation where the mainline B732 used to overnight in ABZ and depart GLA early morning. And now I feel old(er).
Wonder how this will impact on easyJet?
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Thats a great new route. Slightly different market, so will have minimal impact on EZY service. I cant imagine the environment AF last operated in to GLA is the same as it is now...