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A fully loaded A330 needs 2770m of runway at MTOW, giving a range of 7,250nm.
EDI runway is 2556m, so an A330 will not be able to operate at max takeoff weight. EDI-PVG however is only 5,625 mi, so should be achievable with a decent load out of EDI.
Any Edinburgh-China flight will be primarily aimed at inbound Chinese tourism, but will also cater to the huge Chinese->UK cargo market, which will bring in a considerable amount of extra revenue. Runway length is not an issue for this. There will also be demand for outbound cargo, so any extra cargo they can carry here will be a bonus.
EDIT: Sorry, didn't realise this was the Glasgow forum.
In reality, any Chinese flight will be catering to the inbound Chinese tourist market, many of whom will be travelling as part of a package deal, which will take in most of the sights of Scotland. In such a case, either airport would be suitable. Edinburgh might be slightly better known though, so may have a slight edge.
EDI runway is 2556m, so an A330 will not be able to operate at max takeoff weight. EDI-PVG however is only 5,625 mi, so should be achievable with a decent load out of EDI.
Any Edinburgh-China flight will be primarily aimed at inbound Chinese tourism, but will also cater to the huge Chinese->UK cargo market, which will bring in a considerable amount of extra revenue. Runway length is not an issue for this. There will also be demand for outbound cargo, so any extra cargo they can carry here will be a bonus.
EDIT: Sorry, didn't realise this was the Glasgow forum.
In reality, any Chinese flight will be catering to the inbound Chinese tourist market, many of whom will be travelling as part of a package deal, which will take in most of the sights of Scotland. In such a case, either airport would be suitable. Edinburgh might be slightly better known though, so may have a slight edge.
Think this should be relocated to the EDI forum, but I just don't think the loads are there, even at something like 3 pw. What MIGHT work is a multi stop flight, like EDI/DUB or GLA/ARN. Happy to be proven wrong though.
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I think both GLA and EDI could both easily fill a 3pw service. There are airports that have similar sized catchment areas that that have multiple flights to China and the Far East, Prague for example has 3 different airlines flying multiple times a week to China. I don't see why places like Prague can do it and Edinburgh or Glasgow couldn't.
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There have been rumours mentioned that these type of flights would be double drop anyway... China Eastern I think could have potentially be via a Scandinavian point and Hainan was via MAN or DUB. Agree, a direct high frequency widebody is pushing it even with cargo and panda tourists.
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Think this was rumoured with the original now dropped Munich, but nice to see another ski route from GLA
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...as-of-23mar17/
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...as-of-23mar17/
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The link works fine!
If you couldn't open the link I would advise you to go the RoutesOnline website which by the way is an excellent site which should be viewed everyday as it's very informative and well respected by the aviation industry.
If you couldn't open the link I would advise you to go the RoutesOnline website which by the way is an excellent site which should be viewed everyday as it's very informative and well respected by the aviation industry.
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I think both GLA and EDI could both easily fill a 3pw service. There are airports that have similar sized catchment areas that that have multiple flights to China and the Far East, Prague for example has 3 different airlines flying multiple times a week to China. I don't see why places like Prague can do it and Edinburgh or Glasgow couldn't.
Now think why Prague is so much ahead of Scotland and even North West England.
These islands are and will remain a branch line cul d'sac what ever happens its simply geography.
Many think as we are an island nation and that import more than half of the goods into our economy we must be a leading shipper in tonnage , well actually much/most of our goods simply arrive daily in the low countries on immense container ships or 747/772 freighters serving the MEGA market across the sea with our elements offloaded put on trains or coastal vessels back here that the economical reality.
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I could be pedantic and point out that Ghengis is Hungary, not Czechia, but there is much truth in what rutankrd is saying. Until 3-400 years ago the focus of trade from both England and Scotland was eastward to continental Europe. Hence the huge East Anglian churches, built from the profits of the wool trade, Hanseatic League ports such as London and King's Lynn, and the Dutch-inspred architecture of the towns such as Culross in Five.
The centre of gravity moved West as a result of the growth of the Empire and of the industrial Revolution. It is now, inevitably, returning eastwards as our economy again becomes more and more integrated with that of our ancient trading partners. This is difficult, emotionally, for many to accept. Just as it is difficult for many to accept that, as a country, we have been living beyond our means with a huge trade deficit.
The centre of gravity moved West as a result of the growth of the Empire and of the industrial Revolution. It is now, inevitably, returning eastwards as our economy again becomes more and more integrated with that of our ancient trading partners. This is difficult, emotionally, for many to accept. Just as it is difficult for many to accept that, as a country, we have been living beyond our means with a huge trade deficit.
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The Austro- Hungary Empire and other pre Medieval Hun kingdoms encompassed much of modern day Czechia and Slovakia. Neighbouring Hungary is but a remnant of the today.
But still ...
Good reference to the Hanseatic league there and its real importance in modelling these island trading relationships.Those German, Dutch and Belgium (modern day) guys held sway on huge amounts of our trade once up on time.
Today the legacy remains with the dominance of Rotterdam, Antwerp and Hamburg ports with Felixstowe and Tilbury simply being feeders in the main.
Gone right off the tread relevance now through
The Austro- Hungary Empire and other pre Medieval Hun kingdoms encompassed much of modern day Czechia and Slovakia. Neighbouring Hungary is but a remnant of the today.
But still ...
Good reference to the Hanseatic league there and its real importance in modelling these island trading relationships.Those German, Dutch and Belgium (modern day) guys held sway on huge amounts of our trade once up on time.
Today the legacy remains with the dominance of Rotterdam, Antwerp and Hamburg ports with Felixstowe and Tilbury simply being feeders in the main.
Gone right off the tread relevance now through
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Very misleading title but interesting to note specific mention of Glasgow. Im sure the Indian airlines will have done their catchment and connecting homework
Glasgow Airport to offer direct flights to India (From Evening Times)
Glasgow Airport to offer direct flights to India (From Evening Times)
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www.dublinairport.com/latest-news/detail/dublin-airport-named-one-of-world-s-best-airportshttp://www.dublinairport.com/latest-...-best-airports
From the Dublin thread. Glasgow number 2 airport in the world according to the DAA website.
From the Dublin thread. Glasgow number 2 airport in the world according to the DAA website.
I'm treating the two lists with a serious degree of scepticism.
Having been through six out of the ten in the best list, I'd only rate Oslo as half decent, the rest not at all. At least it hasn't totally succumbed to the shopping mall with the odd semi-attached departure gate.
On the worst list, I simply can't believe that Heathrow isn't there. It's not the worst airport in the world, but it's such a hateful experience passing through the place that even our corporate travel policy lets us book more expensive alternatives rather than transit through it (& a select few others, including one in the best list).
Having been through six out of the ten in the best list, I'd only rate Oslo as half decent, the rest not at all. At least it hasn't totally succumbed to the shopping mall with the odd semi-attached departure gate.
On the worst list, I simply can't believe that Heathrow isn't there. It's not the worst airport in the world, but it's such a hateful experience passing through the place that even our corporate travel policy lets us book more expensive alternatives rather than transit through it (& a select few others, including one in the best list).