EDI Transatlantic flight on the cards?
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EDI Transatlantic flight on the cards?
AIRPORT bosses have brought transatlantic flights from Edinburgh a step closer by offering help to
encourage airlines to establish a direct north America link.
BAA Scotland, which runs both Edinburgh and Glasgow airports, is understood to be offering
Continental Airlines discounts of up to 75 per cent on landing charges for new transatlantic routes to
and from its airports.
Although Edinburgh has recently become Scotland’s biggest airport for scheduled air passengers,
Glasgow is the only departure point north of the Border for direct US flights. The Scottish Executive has
said it would back up any new route from Edinburgh with marketing help.
BAA said the plan was to build transatlantic services from both Glasgow and Edinburgh, but industry
analysts doubt there is enough business to sustain two services.
Kieran Daly, the editor of Air Transport Intelligence, said: “Many people in the US won’t care whether
they are flying into Glasgow or Edinburgh and the deals and conditions which airports offer are tremendously
important in luring business.”
Edinburgh is already growing faster than Glasgow and has far more of the lucrative business travellers that
airlines and airports value most.
BAA Scottish Airports’ business development manager, David Field, confirmed he had made a “very generous
offer” to Continental in an effort to lure it to Edinburgh. He said: “We want to build transatlantic services to both
airports. Any Edinburgh service would be in addition to, rather than instead of, Glasgow flights.”
Nick Britton, a spokesman for Continental, said: “We welcome help in launching new services, but we would
only consider a new destination if it were viable in its own right. We have operated the Glasgow-Newark route
now for four years and that will remain. We will not be considering anything else until the economic situation
becomes clearer.”
encourage airlines to establish a direct north America link.
BAA Scotland, which runs both Edinburgh and Glasgow airports, is understood to be offering
Continental Airlines discounts of up to 75 per cent on landing charges for new transatlantic routes to
and from its airports.
Although Edinburgh has recently become Scotland’s biggest airport for scheduled air passengers,
Glasgow is the only departure point north of the Border for direct US flights. The Scottish Executive has
said it would back up any new route from Edinburgh with marketing help.
BAA said the plan was to build transatlantic services from both Glasgow and Edinburgh, but industry
analysts doubt there is enough business to sustain two services.
Kieran Daly, the editor of Air Transport Intelligence, said: “Many people in the US won’t care whether
they are flying into Glasgow or Edinburgh and the deals and conditions which airports offer are tremendously
important in luring business.”
Edinburgh is already growing faster than Glasgow and has far more of the lucrative business travellers that
airlines and airports value most.
BAA Scottish Airports’ business development manager, David Field, confirmed he had made a “very generous
offer” to Continental in an effort to lure it to Edinburgh. He said: “We want to build transatlantic services to both
airports. Any Edinburgh service would be in addition to, rather than instead of, Glasgow flights.”
Nick Britton, a spokesman for Continental, said: “We welcome help in launching new services, but we would
only consider a new destination if it were viable in its own right. We have operated the Glasgow-Newark route
now for four years and that will remain. We will not be considering anything else until the economic situation
becomes clearer.”
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Travel City Direct with ATA (and this year EAAC) run flights direct to Orlando Sanford in Florida from Edinburgh already, although this is not year round.
They probably want more of a scheduled EDI-JFK or EDI-Dulles service I expect.
SFly
They probably want more of a scheduled EDI-JFK or EDI-Dulles service I expect.
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we have the very occasional one-off charter TX flight to orlando, but we do not have any scheduled trans-atlantic flights. Hopefully this is about to change soon....
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In fact, Air Transat has once again included Edinburgh in it's summer programme out of Toronto this summer. In the last couple of years the service has been operated with a Tristar (2000) then the A310, sometimes 757(2001). This year it is solely the 757, at least on paper, reality, dispatch can provide a substitute without notice.
A 757 makes alot more sense because of the size and the ecomomy associated with filling the seats easier, 228 seats could be easier to fill than 259 in the A310 and besides the 757 is alot more cheaper per seat mile than the A310 .
If Continental started EDI service I have a feeling it would be 757 service too.
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A 757 makes alot more sense because of the size and the ecomomy associated with filling the seats easier, 228 seats could be easier to fill than 259 in the A310 and besides the 757 is alot more cheaper per seat mile than the A310 .
If Continental started EDI service I have a feeling it would be 757 service too.
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Icelandair: They currently fly to glasgow, im not sure if they are looking into an EDI service or not, i have heard many people wishing they would fly to EDI, but nothing about the airlines interest. Would be nice to see though...
Emirates: I have heard many rumours suggesting they want to start flights to scotland, and GLA has been mentioned as a possible candidate. Emirates released news about new routes for the next year or two recently, and no scottish destinations were mentioned. I believe emirates might even have an office in glasgow, can anyone confirm this?
Continental: CO have been flying a 757 into GLA over the winter, and using a 767 through the summer. I believe CO areconcidering making this route 764 all year round. If so they will have a 757 going spare for a new route. I think if they do start a route to EDI they will use a 757 at first to see what loads are like. Better to fly a full 757 than risk an empty 767 service. Ideally i would liek them to fly a 777 into EDI, but thats not going to happen
could be a good summer next year, especially if we manage to break GLAs virtual monopoly of charter flights...
Emirates: I have heard many rumours suggesting they want to start flights to scotland, and GLA has been mentioned as a possible candidate. Emirates released news about new routes for the next year or two recently, and no scottish destinations were mentioned. I believe emirates might even have an office in glasgow, can anyone confirm this?
Continental: CO have been flying a 757 into GLA over the winter, and using a 767 through the summer. I believe CO areconcidering making this route 764 all year round. If so they will have a 757 going spare for a new route. I think if they do start a route to EDI they will use a 757 at first to see what loads are like. Better to fly a full 757 than risk an empty 767 service. Ideally i would liek them to fly a 777 into EDI, but thats not going to happen
could be a good summer next year, especially if we manage to break GLAs virtual monopoly of charter flights...
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European are flying 747s to SFB this summer, OK its only 3
return flights but it proves EDI's runway is capable. Flights
appear to be fully booked.
Rumours suggest that Thomson's BY could be flying non-stop winter charters from EDI to Fort Lauderdale.?
return flights but it proves EDI's runway is capable. Flights
appear to be fully booked.
Rumours suggest that Thomson's BY could be flying non-stop winter charters from EDI to Fort Lauderdale.?
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I phoned Travel City a few weeks back and the operator
said it was direct- flying time was under 10 hours both
ways. But they would say that wouldn't they.?
said it was direct- flying time was under 10 hours both
ways. But they would say that wouldn't they.?
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Runway length at EDI should not pose too much of a problem - it is similar in length to BHX and the latter airport supports several transatlantic services, as well as EK A330's to DXB and PIA A310's to Karachi and Toronto. I think EDI is crying out for a daily CO service to EWR at the very least - the 757 would be ideal equipment to test the water, or even their 767-200 machines.
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Joe, BHX has a main parallel taxiway linking the main apron area to the threshold of runway 15 - no backtracking is required at all at this airport. Rwy 15/33 is 2606m in length and due to the position of this main strip, it does suffer from crosswinds quite a bit. In terms of size (terminals, apron area etc) BHX is bigger than EDI and it can support up to seven or so wide bodied aircraft at peak times. Though some of these would be parked on remote stands. EDI actually sees a bigger number a passengers travelling through it than BHX in the winter months, though summertime PAX figures at BHX do better than EDI simply due to the fact that this airport has quite a large number of holiday flights arriving and departing. BHX is the 3rd busiest airport in the UK for charter flights. BHX handles approx 7.8 million PAX per annum at the moment, though this should rise to 10 million by 2006. BHX has two terminals - T2 Eurohub handles all BA flights (including franchise partners) and American Airlines (due to the OneWorld alliance with BA) and T1 Main handles all other flights. Hope this info helps.
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Thanks for the BHX info Jay! EDI is rather let down by charter
flights, I'm surprised EDI is busier than BHX during the winter months.
The order during the winter would be: LHR, LGW, MAN, STN, EDI, LTN, BHX, GLA, ?
During the summer months: LHR, LGW, MAN, STN, BHX, GLA, LTN, EDI,
Pure conjecture on my part, we don't seem to be getting non BAA
airport figures these days.
flights,
I'm surprised EDI is busier than BHX during the winter months.The order during the winter would be: LHR, LGW, MAN, STN, EDI, LTN, BHX, GLA, ?
During the summer months: LHR, LGW, MAN, STN, BHX, GLA, LTN, EDI,
Pure conjecture on my part, we don't seem to be getting non BAA
airport figures these days.
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Hello Boys and Girls and fellow citizens of Wibble.
European Airlines are flying direct to Sanford starting at the end of this month. They will be flying from Gatwick and Manchester and NOT Edinburgh as mentioned.
European Airlines are flying direct to Sanford starting at the end of this month. They will be flying from Gatwick and Manchester and NOT Edinburgh as mentioned.
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So what are we to make of the fact that the adverts specifically state non-stop EDI, MAN, LGW & GLA to Orlando using "Jumbo Jets" and in the 28th May 2002 Official Record Series 2, European Airlines applied to operate charter flights on those routes from 28th June?
Just because they aren't flying from EDI this month does not mean that they are not doing any EDI flights at all.
Just because they aren't flying from EDI this month does not mean that they are not doing any EDI flights at all.