Norwegian Air Shuttle

[Skipness One Echo]

BA's base economy is £638, what are you comparing against?

The new trend is to spend as little as possible on flying to a destination

I love this, are you sure this is what you really meant to say?
So to be clear, it's being pitched at the budget conscious leisure traveller?

[mickyman]

A brave new world for Low-cost....I hope it works for them

MM

[BAladdy]

DY have today also started to release there S14 schedule. Below are details of the flights currently available to book.

Information below is of course subject to further change in the coming months

New Routes

Budapest - 3 x weekly service begins 30th March.

DY2496 LGW 11:15 BUD 14:45/DY2497 BUD 15:15 LGW 16:40 24
DY2496 LGW 11:45 BUD 15:15/DY2497 BUD 15:45 LGW 17:10 7

Catania - A weekly service starts 5th of April

DY2490 LGW 06:00 - CTA 10:15/DY2491 CTA 11:00 - LGW 13:10 6

Corfu - A Weekly service starts 19th of July

DY2488 LGW 23:55 CFU 05:00+1 738 6
DY2489 CFU 05:45 LGW 06:55 738 7

Larnaca - Weekly service starts 5th of April

DY2486 LGW 06:00 LCA 12:35 738 6
DY2487 LCA 13:20 LGW 16:10 738 6

Santorini - Weekly service starts 5th of April

DY2492 LGW 15:10 JTR 21:05 738 6
DY2493 JTR 21:50 LGW 23:50 738 6

Frequency Changes

AAL - Reduced from 3 to 2 x weekly for S14
BCN - Flights increase from 3 x weekly to daily. All operated by a non LGW based aircraft
BGO - Reduced from 12 to 11 x weekly
CPH - Increases for 19 to 24 x weekly
DBV - Seasonal service resumes 2nd of April. Frequency is increased to 2 x weekly
FAO - Increases from 1 to 3 x weekly from 1st of April
IBZ - Seasonal service resumes 1st of April, with frequency increased from 1 to 2 x weekly
AGP - Increases from 3 x weekly to daily from 30th March. All operated by a non LGW based aircraft
OSL - Increases from 24 to 25 x weekly
PMI - Increases from 1 to 3 x weekly from the 1st of April
SVG - Reduces from 6 to 5 x weekly from 23 June.
SPU - Seasonal service will resume 2nd April. Frequency increased from 1 to 2 x weekly
TFS - Increases from 4 to 5 x weekly. All operated by a non LGW based aircraft
TRD - Will op 5 x weekly

AES, ARN and HEL currently on sale at the same frequency as S13.

Routes NOT available to book

Currently there are no S14 flights on sale for DY's services from LGW to

ALC, ACE, FUE, GOT, LPA, NCE, FCO and TOS


Does anyone know if these routes have been dropped for next summer?

[towerview]

For dates in August, including bags, booze and food, London/JFK Norwegian are GBP 375 against BA at 874, according to Skyscanner. £500 should get a very reasonable dinner in New York.

[TSR2]

For dates in August London/JFK Norwegian are GBP 375

Certain dates are priced at £300.70 return Plus Taxes?, Bags, Fuel Surcharge? and Credit Card Fee.

Some flights only 1 seat left so must be selling well unless a selling ploy.

[Jet Set Willie]

BA available at £587 all in on their site for Aug. Bags, booze and food all in on several flights a day. So more than a match for the limiting twice a week schedule I think.

[LN-KGL]

The lowest price for a return ticket to JFK is £360.70 with the Plus-package included (1 checked in bag + meals + seat reservation) provided the tickets is bought with a debit card (credit card fee is £4 per reservation).

[Bagmanlgw]

DY

All these routes will operate , just not on sale yet . All have performed well this summer

If memory serves me right some of these routes did not go on sale till after the main release last year

Did hear rumours of KGS, EFL, MAH , still to be announced on top of the 5 new routes announced today .

Does anyone know how many B738s are planned to based ex LGW for next summer

[LAX_LHR]

Also seems MAN base will be launched as Norwegian have said 2nd England base to open, and the fact MAN-AGP was very briefly showing as available from 24th June 2014 in GDS but has since disappeared again.

[Bagso]

These long haul routes should have been from Manchester, vast untapped demand.

...should have gone to specsavers

[LAX_LHR]

Bagso,

Why the LGW jealousy? There is obviously the demand from LGW too and let's not forget they have had a vastly larger operation than MAN for longer too.

Rome wasn't built in a day and MAN will have to prove itself on short haul basing before the vast investment of a long haul aircraft is put in, and MAN is not even a daily flight operation for Norwegian yet (winter only sees operations on Mon, Wed and Fri yet you expect a based B787?)

I would love MAN-LAX as much as the next person but to despair that LGW gets it before MAN, with the larger Norwegian operation and let's face it, the London market behind it, is just bonkers.

[towerview]

BA available at £587 all in on their site for Aug

What days Willie? I cant find that price or anywhere near. The cheapest prices on the BA website seem to be all with American Airlines.

[TSR2]

as Norwegian have said 2nd England base to open

Liverpool Maybe !

[LAX_LHR]

I'd be surprised if LPL was chosen as a base.

Dropped from 3 weekly to 2 weekly, low loads and so far seems to stop on 28th March despite the fact EDI-CPH is bookable past this date and LPL/EDI share same aircraft from CPH on Mon/Fri.

I'm not saying a LPL base would never happen, but would be surprised.

[wallp]

Good luck to them with these long haul routes from LGW. I really hope they are a success.

Someone on the Luton thread has suggested they might fly from there. Could that be an option for a second base?

[SWBKCB]

These long haul routes should have been from Manchester, vast untapped demand.

This quote from the Independent gives the answer:

Bjorn Kjos, chief executive of Norwegian, revealed the routes at a press conference in London today. He said that low-cost long-haul could work only as an extension of a successful short-haul network, and only with the right aircraft. "The fuel efficiency and also the utilisation of the Dreamliner are much better. If we fly the next best aircraft in the market the extra cost would be £5m a year."

Mr Kjos said that he expected many European travellers to fly to Gatwick in order to transfer to transatlantic flights: "People will 'self-connect'. I believe that's the future".

[davidjohnson6]

Mr Kjos said that he expected many European travellers to fly to Gatwick in order to transfer to transatlantic flights: "People will 'self-connect'. I believe that's the future".

So British Airways, along with other carriers, becomes a short-haul feeder airline to Norwegian ?

[j636]

It's hard to call if DY will be successful from LGW to the US, Take APD out of those rather cheep fares and do they have much profit when there own operating costs are taken out. Clearly its start off fares and they will climb. Hopefully they make a go of it but there own network out of LGW won't feed much passengers to the services.

[racedo]

Good luck to NAS as will be interesting to see more LGW routes opened up.

[Buster the Bear]

Luton rumour was posted last year by me.

Doubt if much will happen until AENA are confirmed as having taken over the airport. Monarch have yet to announce, but bookable, a huge expansion from Luton. Norwegian were certainly linked with a Bedfordshire base, but much has happened since then.

787-800 fully loaded could operate Luton LA direct, in fact Luton Hawaii is also possible.

Slots at Gatwick might limit Norwegian expansion long-term?

Manchester would seem an ideal 787 long haul base? From reading, the intention is to have 787 bases in the USA with routes to Asia and Europe, so in theory, they could fly Fort Lauderdale or New York to many UK airports?