BA B787 UK Domestic 'tour' 08AUG

[Blighty Pilot]

Must have you round for Sunday dinner one day - would be a fascinating conversation

[VC10man]

I was in Derby today and heard an engine which turned out to be a Spitfire. There was a large silent plane in front of the Spit which was the BA 787.
We were all thrilled to see the two planes, the Spitfire looked tiny compared to the 787. Of course as we all know the engines were made in Derby, in England, Great Britain. How proud we are in Derby of Rolls Royce.
They do not make aero engines in Germany, do they?

[TCAS_Alert]

They do not make aero engines in Germany, do they?

Yes - BMW, and MTU who make parts for PW and IAE

[DaveReidUK]

Can't remember what G-CIV* or G-BNW* stands for off the top of my head

CIV is (supposedly) 400, as in 747-400: C (100 in Roman numerals) times IV (4).

[El Bunto]

There was a large silent plane in front of the Spit which was the BA 787.

Interesting, looking forward to hearing one of the BA RR examples over-the-top on the regular Atlantic runs. Heard both of them inbound on delivery but the thick clouds that were present can change noise perception..

The GE-engined Thomson examples are pretty noticeable at ground level as they fly over westwards at FL320 out of Manchester. Probably on par with the 767s and more than 757s.

But none of those are quite as noisy as the A380s. What a racket! We can tell one of those by noise profile alone even when it's at FL360. But boy can they climb, usually 4000 feet higher than 777s on the same sector by the time they reach NI.

[Manchester Exile]

But none of those are quite as noisy as the A380s. What a racket!

That's an interesting perception. The Qantas A380 flies over my house most days, probably at about 4,000 feet - and it's almost silent. The 747-400's that come over really do make a racket.

[Phileas Fogg]

"Racket"?

[joy ride]

Planes approaching Heathrow from the east fly over me and the A380s are much quieter than any 747 and I sometimes even mistake the sound for a modern two engine airliner. Even a mighty VC10 can be reasonably quiet on approach. Take off noise is a very different matter and I have not yet heard a 380 taking off. Noise also spreads out in complex ways and where you are in relation to the plane has a huge effect on the sound level you hear.

[DaveReidUK]

the A380s are much quieter than any 747 and I sometimes even mistake the sound for a modern two engine airliner

At the 3 principal London airports, for noise quota purposes, a 747-400 arrival consumes as many quota points as 4 x A380 arrivals, and on departure the ratio is 2:1.

[VC10man]

When I saw the 787 low over Derby it was going slowly so the Spitfire could keep up, so that is why it was so quiet.
Several people have commented how quiet she was, I was told she went round 3 times but I only saw her the 3rd time. If it hadn't been for the sound of the Merlin most of us would have missed her.

Am I right in referring to a 787 as her, or is this a typical male chauvinist thing?

I would have liked to see the BA 787 in the old Landor colours, could any of you clever people put up a picture please.

[ETOPS]

Here you are VC10man

[VC10man]

Thank you very much ETOPS, is it only me who thinks that the Landor livery looks mush classier than the present livery? I thought that BA should have improved it while bringing in all the new planes.

I have an apology to make.........the Merlin I heard in the blue skies over Derby was actually a Griffon. What a mistaka to makea.

[VC10man]

Also thanks Mr Fogg for you VC10 videos, what a fabulous sound the Conways make (I hope I've got the engine type correct this time).
As you may notice from my name, I love the VC10 although I've never flown on one and most certainly never will. But I would like to see her last flight, I don't know when it is.

I saw Concorde BOAF's last landing at Filton, I hoped in vain that they would do a go round, but she landed perfectly! Miserable spoilsport pilot!!