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^^I do not think English only like beach. Others known cities like Pisa or Firenze are atractive and don't have the beach component. However, Costa de la Luz is served by Seville Airport within 1 hour by car from it. There are some wonderful resorts like Costa Ballena, El Portil, Zahara de los Atunes, Islantilla... which offer unspoilt beaches, golf and luxury hotel resorts... Fortunately for few, it is still undiscovered by foreigners and are mainly feed of national tourism. Lots of Sevillians, Catalonians and Basques have a second residence there. In summer, BIO-SVQ and BCN-SVQ practically transport these people. NTE-SVQ, ORY-SVQ and LYS-SVQ of Transavia also feed these Resorts. They used to go to hotel Lookea Marismas de Andalucía, Elba Costa Ballena, Barceló Costa Ballena.... among the more beautiful
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that's my point - the mass of Brits want to pour off the plane and head straight to the beach and bar - discerning tourists go to the places you mention but the mob prefers Torremolinos, Magaluf or San Arenal.......
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the mass of Brits want to pour off the plane and head straight to the beach and bar - discerning tourists go to the places you mention but the mob prefers Torremolinos, Magaluf or San Arenal.......
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The fact still remains - beach or no beach - that for an airport the size it is, and for a capital city of the second most populated area within Spain, the choice and variety of flights (not to mention the scheduling) falls way short of expectations.
Budapest, Prague, Venice. Munich, & Bilbao are not "mob", "beach" destinations, but served by UK LCCs. Seville, Jerez & Cadiz deserve better UK connections. Maybe an opportunity for Veuling, if the UKs not interested.
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I think SVQ - BHX could be a profitable route for the likes of EZY or RYR.
BHX has a large catchment area and if the prices were right people would travel from MAN, LPL, LBA as well. Train station at the airport with regular services.
BHX is in dire need of new routes and SVQ is keen to develop new links with the UK outside of London.
I am biased though as I work in Seville and live near to BHX, travelling via AGP is a bit of a pain but quicker than via MAD and LHR.
BHX has a large catchment area and if the prices were right people would travel from MAN, LPL, LBA as well. Train station at the airport with regular services.
BHX is in dire need of new routes and SVQ is keen to develop new links with the UK outside of London.
I am biased though as I work in Seville and live near to BHX, travelling via AGP is a bit of a pain but quicker than via MAD and LHR.
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Mr A Tis - unfortunately relatively few Brits have any idea of the joys of Seville - the only thing they about is that the oranges in their supermarket seem to come from there.
Madrid, Barcelona & Bilbao are probably the only non-beach destinations known to the unwashed - and Deportivo because they have/had a decent football team. Some culture vultures also head for Granada & Cordoba but it's not a lot of bums on seats
Personally I think it's fantastic - and I'll put of with some inconvenient flights if it keeps the Hen & Stag weekend crowd away
Madrid, Barcelona & Bilbao are probably the only non-beach destinations known to the unwashed - and Deportivo because they have/had a decent football team. Some culture vultures also head for Granada & Cordoba but it's not a lot of bums on seats
Personally I think it's fantastic - and I'll put of with some inconvenient flights if it keeps the Hen & Stag weekend crowd away
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Very slightly off thread, but BA are introducing a service LCY-GRX as of July 25, thereby reinstating a much needed GRX-UK service. The choice of London City Airport leaves me a little bemused however since LCY is essentially a businessman's airport and unless you actually live in London or South Essex a bit of a bitch to get to by public transport... Arrival at any London mainline rail terminal other than Liverpool Street involves at least two changes on the tube and Docklands Light Railway...
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This week I have been noticed about a Monarch Famtrip to Seville last year to show Monarch delegates the city and the region. Additionally in Routes Europe 2012 there were some meetings with Jet2.com to show the benefits of operating UK-SVQ flights. So as I can see, it is not a lack of interest from airport authorities, but from UK airlines (maybe becuse there is not a strong demand to justify direct flights unless RYR would put them).
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Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry
Mr A Tis - unfortunately relatively few Brits have any idea of the joys of Seville - the only thing they about is that the oranges in their supermarket seem to come from there.
Madrid, Barcelona & Bilbao are probably the only non-beach destinations known to the unwashed - and Deportivo because they have/had a decent football team. Some culture vultures also head for Granada & Cordoba but it's not a lot of bums on seats
Madrid, Barcelona & Bilbao are probably the only non-beach destinations known to the unwashed - and Deportivo because they have/had a decent football team. Some culture vultures also head for Granada & Cordoba but it's not a lot of bums on seats
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BHX has a large catchment area and if the prices were right people would travel from MAN, LPL, LBA as well.
In any case, BHX already competes with MAN and LPL for the North Staffordshire/Cheshire/Derbyshire market.
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Quite agree with you Heathrow Harry about Seville etc. The area is fantastic but it is just not for the great unwashed of the UK and long may it remain so. It caters mainly for mainland Spanish, German and Scandinavians.
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The area sounds interesting and worth a visit, shame I am one of the great unwashed so I had better stay away. By the way I thought it was El Arenal not San Arenal but I could be wrong.
Back on topic however, it is interesting that Monarch have done familiarisation trips, one would hope they would bring a better class of clientèle than Ryanair.
Back on topic however, it is interesting that Monarch have done familiarisation trips, one would hope they would bring a better class of clientèle than Ryanair.
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it's not just Brits - mass tourism is a blight on a lot of places - the Spanish themselves aren't particularly wonderful in the area south of Valencia for example and anyone who has seen the howling mob departing Paris at the start of August will have a very good idea of what Gengiz Khan and friends looked like..........
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Seville Flights - North of England?
Hello, im from Warrington, UK. Im new to the forum.
I travel to Seville alot, as I have family living there. We used to use the Liverpool direct flight which was great. Perfect actually! However since that stopped it has been a real hassle flying to Malaga, Gibraltar and even taking the direct Ryanair flight from Stanstead.
Does anyone have any other others in this subject? I cannot beleive that such a major City has connection at all with the North of England, and that there are so many different flight options in London. I can honestly say every Liverpool flight I went on was packed. So I could never understand why it was axed in the first place and replaced by another provider.
Kind regards
I travel to Seville alot, as I have family living there. We used to use the Liverpool direct flight which was great. Perfect actually! However since that stopped it has been a real hassle flying to Malaga, Gibraltar and even taking the direct Ryanair flight from Stanstead.
Does anyone have any other others in this subject? I cannot beleive that such a major City has connection at all with the North of England, and that there are so many different flight options in London. I can honestly say every Liverpool flight I went on was packed. So I could never understand why it was axed in the first place and replaced by another provider.
Kind regards
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mevans_europe,
Seville, capital of Andalusia, is the fourth biggest city in Spain. 2 millions inhabitants live in its metropolitan area. 4,2 millions people live within one hour and a half driving from Seville airport.
Seville is also the third most visited city in Spain (and growing!). Art, flamenco, gastronomy (tapas), nightlife, religious origins, and some famous sights (such as Giralda), attract over 2 millions visitors every year to the city (100.000 of them, from UK).
Currently, Ryanair and easyJet are the only operators which fly between Seville and United Kingdom. London is the only city served through Gatwick and Stansted airports. In summer season 2014, both airlines will offer 16 weekly frequencies (total) in these routes. In fact, SVQ-UK flights rarely depart less than 90% full. Fares are rarely low, and there are people who preffer to fly to London from FAO/AGP paying low fares, as Seville is becoming a kind of a 'VIP' service to fly directly, even with Ryanair!
For those who ask themselves why only London, in 2011 Ryanair expanded at Seville with new routes to East Midlands and London-Gatwick which were added to the existing ones of Bristol, Liverpool and London Stansted. The same year, easyJet announced its first route to Seville, from London Gatwick. Seville-UK market grew consequently. The market was suddenly overserved, and this had its consequences. Ryanair cancelled Bristol, Liverpool and East Midlands routes as Vueling did it with London-Heatrow. Seville is not Malaga or Alicante, and we cannot support 28 weekly frequencies to 6 destinations across UK. It was a madness!
However. load factors were never poors (this is according with Ryanair sources), but yields decrease too much, as the fares should be lower than expected for the plane to become fully booked.
The consequences two years later, is that we only have flights to London
Is Seville airport Marketing Team working for more Seville-UK connections? Yes, they are. But no low-cost ones. They do not want Ryanair to overserve the market again, and remove competitors from it. They are in talks with British Airways, which is interested to open SVQ-LON (LHR or LCY) in 2015. Even there are some conversations with Jet2.com, although I personally do not see this airline flying to Seville (too charter vacation-focused).
I only look forward to Ryanair for re-opening Seville-Northern England link in the coming seasons. It is the only airline which fits in this market, capable of operate it. In fact, the Irish carrier will (perhaps) base more aircrafts in Manchester base next summer, and some routes are expected to be announced soon. Hope Seville to be among them!
Seville sounded as Manchester's route when Ryanair opened its base in Ringway. Although they requested slots, the route was never announced.
Best Regards
PD: Is there any kind of Warringtonians colony in Seville? Among the few English I know living here, 3 of them are from Warrington! :P
Seville, capital of Andalusia, is the fourth biggest city in Spain. 2 millions inhabitants live in its metropolitan area. 4,2 millions people live within one hour and a half driving from Seville airport.
Seville is also the third most visited city in Spain (and growing!). Art, flamenco, gastronomy (tapas), nightlife, religious origins, and some famous sights (such as Giralda), attract over 2 millions visitors every year to the city (100.000 of them, from UK).
Currently, Ryanair and easyJet are the only operators which fly between Seville and United Kingdom. London is the only city served through Gatwick and Stansted airports. In summer season 2014, both airlines will offer 16 weekly frequencies (total) in these routes. In fact, SVQ-UK flights rarely depart less than 90% full. Fares are rarely low, and there are people who preffer to fly to London from FAO/AGP paying low fares, as Seville is becoming a kind of a 'VIP' service to fly directly, even with Ryanair!
For those who ask themselves why only London, in 2011 Ryanair expanded at Seville with new routes to East Midlands and London-Gatwick which were added to the existing ones of Bristol, Liverpool and London Stansted. The same year, easyJet announced its first route to Seville, from London Gatwick. Seville-UK market grew consequently. The market was suddenly overserved, and this had its consequences. Ryanair cancelled Bristol, Liverpool and East Midlands routes as Vueling did it with London-Heatrow. Seville is not Malaga or Alicante, and we cannot support 28 weekly frequencies to 6 destinations across UK. It was a madness!
However. load factors were never poors (this is according with Ryanair sources), but yields decrease too much, as the fares should be lower than expected for the plane to become fully booked.
The consequences two years later, is that we only have flights to London
Is Seville airport Marketing Team working for more Seville-UK connections? Yes, they are. But no low-cost ones. They do not want Ryanair to overserve the market again, and remove competitors from it. They are in talks with British Airways, which is interested to open SVQ-LON (LHR or LCY) in 2015. Even there are some conversations with Jet2.com, although I personally do not see this airline flying to Seville (too charter vacation-focused).
I only look forward to Ryanair for re-opening Seville-Northern England link in the coming seasons. It is the only airline which fits in this market, capable of operate it. In fact, the Irish carrier will (perhaps) base more aircrafts in Manchester base next summer, and some routes are expected to be announced soon. Hope Seville to be among them!
Seville sounded as Manchester's route when Ryanair opened its base in Ringway. Although they requested slots, the route was never announced.
Best Regards
PD: Is there any kind of Warringtonians colony in Seville? Among the few English I know living here, 3 of them are from Warrington! :P
FR8364,
I travel fairly frequently between Scotland and Spain and have often flown from Liverpool, but never from Manchester.
That should tell you something either about the ground transport links or the flight scheduling.
I travel fairly frequently between Scotland and Spain and have often flown from Liverpool, but never from Manchester.
That should tell you something either about the ground transport links or the flight scheduling.
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May be worth exploring a spainish airline to take this up with a smaller aircraft say Volotea with 717 they already fly contract into the UK and may be good for weekly services to BRS, SOU, LPL, BLK, BHX, GLA, EDI, NCL, HUY,NWI & SEN. all of these are in good catchment areas and with a smaller aircraft the yeilds could be better and load factors higher.