HS2 rail route and EMA
With regard to the HS1/HS2 link up this surely has to take place for the plan to make any sense at all. When the Channel tunnel was being built, plans were announced to run trains from the midlands direct to Brussells or Paris. One stop on the supposed route was Rugby, which had the benefit of already having platforms of sufficient ength to accommodate the full length of a Eurostar train. This plan was dropped at a fairly early stage (much to the disappointment of Rugbeans).
That was a combination of politics and practicalities. Politics was getting regional M.P.s on side when it came to passing the channel tunnel rail bill, practicalities was the enormous length of time to thread a train across the cross London line down from Willesden, Kensington, Battersea and on to the S.E. main line. No-one was going to take a train from Birmingham to Paris that was going to take four and a half hours or Glasgow that was going to take seven and a half hours.
The farce which followed gives an indication of the lack of thought given to these sort of projects. Someone somewhere, decided that the platforms at Rugby were now "too long" and should be shortened when they rebuilt the station at a cost of several millons of pounds. They were halfway through this shortening when it was announced that Virgin were being required to operate longer trains to increase capacity on the West Coast route. Everyone about turn and start to rebuild that which you have just destroyed!
That we in the UK develop a high speed railway, I think is vital. It is a pity that the Central line built for what was the L.N.E.R. is no more because with it's slow gradients and gradual bends, it would have been if not ideal, a suitable alternative to starting again. This scheme which is vital for the long term industrial benefit of this country, needs a lot more thought. The likes of Brindley and Telford who built the canals of England and Wales had difficulties of their own to deal with, but had they not succeeded, the industrial revolution would not have happened when it did.
My post 57 refers (it was actually built by the G.C. which became a constituent part of the L.N.E.R. upon the Parliamentary grouping of 1923.
That was a combination of politics and practicalities. Politics was getting regional M.P.s on side when it came to passing the channel tunnel rail bill, practicalities was the enormous length of time to thread a train across the cross London line down from Willesden, Kensington, Battersea and on to the S.E. main line. No-one was going to take a train from Birmingham to Paris that was going to take four and a half hours or Glasgow that was going to take seven and a half hours.
The farce which followed gives an indication of the lack of thought given to these sort of projects. Someone somewhere, decided that the platforms at Rugby were now "too long" and should be shortened when they rebuilt the station at a cost of several millons of pounds. They were halfway through this shortening when it was announced that Virgin were being required to operate longer trains to increase capacity on the West Coast route. Everyone about turn and start to rebuild that which you have just destroyed!
That we in the UK develop a high speed railway, I think is vital. It is a pity that the Central line built for what was the L.N.E.R. is no more because with it's slow gradients and gradual bends, it would have been if not ideal, a suitable alternative to starting again. This scheme which is vital for the long term industrial benefit of this country, needs a lot more thought. The likes of Brindley and Telford who built the canals of England and Wales had difficulties of their own to deal with, but had they not succeeded, the industrial revolution would not have happened when it did.
My post 57 refers (it was actually built by the G.C. which became a constituent part of the L.N.E.R. upon the Parliamentary grouping of 1923.
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First,are you aware of the geographical position of EMA?Well it lies next to the M1 and connects to the A42,the roads leading to the M1 and the A42 are single lane roads,as is the road through Castle Donington Village,through which traffic runs to connect to the A50.In the event of an accident these roads are immediatly log jammed,this also happens on race days at Donington park which lies beside the Airport.The Oxford dictionary describes "Disruption" as Quote"Interupt the flow or continuity of"In this instance I refer to traffic,accessing the Airport and its surrounds.Moving millions of cubic metres of earth will need a huge amount of heavy vehicles on these roads you will agree that will cause "disruption" on no small scale.Or perhaps you know of a different method of moving all this earth?Oh silly me!! You are perhaps going to use the same crafty way as the prisoners in the German war prison camp, when they dug a tunnel,you are going to get the workmen to tuck thier trousers into their socks and fill their trousers with soil and then walk ound scattering it so to cause no "disruption"
First,are you aware of the geographical position of EMA?Well it lies next to the M1 and connects to the A42,the roads leading to the M1 and the A42 are single lane roads,as is the road through Castle Donington Village,through which traffic runs to connect to the A50.In the event of an accident these roads are immediatly log jammed,this also happens on race days at Donington park which lies beside the Airport.The Oxford dictionary describes "Disruption" as Quote"Interupt the flow or continuity of"In this instance I refer to traffic,accessing the Airport and its surrounds.Moving millions of cubic metres of earth will need a huge amount of heavy vehicles on these roads you will agree that will cause "disruption" on no small scale.Or perhaps you know of a different method of moving all this earth?Oh silly me!! You are perhaps going to use the same crafty way as the prisoners in the German war prison camp, when they dug a tunnel,you are going to get the workmen to tuck thier trousers into their socks and fill their trousers with soil and then walk ound scattering it so to cause no "disruption"
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Suzeman,
I wouldn't want to be on the night-shift in the EGNX VCR when the twin TBMS' thrust under 09/27.
A real jelly-wobbler.
I wouldn't want to be on the night-shift in the EGNX VCR when the twin TBMS' thrust under 09/27.
A real jelly-wobbler.
Would imagine the tunnel borers will be going H24, so will have the same effect in quieter daytime periods
no need to wait, anything over 25knots already has that affect!
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First,are you aware of the geographical position of EMA?Well it lies next to the M1 and connects to the A42,the roads leading to the M1 and the A42 are single lane roads,as is the road through Castle Donington Village,through which traffic runs to connect to the A50.
Moving millions of cubic metres of earth will need a huge amount of heavy vehicles on these roads you will agree that will cause "disruption" on no small scale.
It may be that some of the spoil can be moved within the construction site itself without impinging on the road network - especially at the Northern end of the tunnel where embankments are required after the M1 crossing. Depending on where the spoil is going you can create project only haul roads which minimise the use of the normal public roads. Construction traffic can be prohibited from using some local roads and I'm quite sure that will be the case here. Different segments of the construction can be phased which also minimises disruption. I'm sure this sort of thing will be put into the detailed engineering specification. Also in there will be mitigation measures to ensure that disruption is minimised and access maintained to the airport - and I'm sure that the airport will be fully involved in this process.
It looks like a very complex exercise with all the different roads in the area as well as Donington Park and the airport. It will be interesting to see what comes out of it. In the meanwhile ,whilst all the professionals will be working to sort this out, I'll leave you to corner the market in trousers in case all fails.
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22034G46 RA+ TSMS.... Bumpy wasnt the word.
As we are perhaps a decade away from any HS2 construction starting, maybe someone will have devised the technology to coordinate the rocking of the tower and any vibration from tunnel boring machines to cancel each other out, rather like noise cancelling headphones.
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Suzeman,
Glad to see you are in better mood today!!As i speak I have a large order off to china for Mens oversize baggy trousers to be delivered before the start date of the earthworks.
Glad to see you are in better mood today!!As i speak I have a large order off to china for Mens oversize baggy trousers to be delivered before the start date of the earthworks.
