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Old 1st Sep 2012, 12:23
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It needs to be recognises that AMS already has more than one airport, in the shape of RTM, just that the Dutch are more honest than the Brits, and mad Irishmen, in the labelling of their airports ... It's quicker to get from RTM to central Amsterdam that it is to get from LGW/STN/Lydd/Oxford blah blah blah to central London, than it is to get from PIK to central Glasgow, than it is to get from Hahn to civilisation etc. etc. etc.
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Old 1st Sep 2012, 12:55
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"The idea of Lelystad was gven a green light in 2003 and then cancelled. Here they are 11 years later after nothing."

Phuck me, I went to sleep last evening imagining it was 2012, I awaken today and apparently it is 2014!
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jabird - I think you're oversimplifying the comparison. The Dutch have just one airport for Amsterdam which happens to be a megahub. Buried in that hub are a lot of LCC and holiday flights which add little or no no-2nd-checkin connectivity to the hub - think Arkefly, Corendon, Easyjet and Transavia.
Not at all, I was pointing out that LEY might well be a sensible option as on overflow airport. I totally agree with your analysis. However, if it is going to work, is 2m pax pa enough? Those Easyjet passengers in particular are going to want to head straight to central AMS. Maybe the new airport could create a competitive environment in which Easy would pay more to stay in AMS, who knows?

The whole island is "new" development, the runway is aligned away from the major population centres, and it could easily have a rail feed into the terminal.

However to do all this, aren't we looking at an airport which is closer in size to LTN / BHX etc?
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It needs to be recognises that AMS already has more than one airport, in the shape of RTM, just that the Dutch are more honest than the Brits, and mad Irishmen, in the labelling of their airports ... It's quicker to get from RTM to central Amsterdam that it is to get from LGW/STN/Lydd/Oxford blah blah blah to central London
With a taxi straight to R Centraal and a quick jump on Thalys or the Fyra rustbuckets, I think you could get from RTM to central Amsterdam in less time than you could get from the Polderbaan + slog through Schiphol.

The question over RTM would be whether or not it could take more flights. Does it not have far more of a noise and slot control problem than LEY would have, if allowed to expand?
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Not at this time. I'm more thinker and let the experts look after the doing. Sadly, too many politicians are neither; long term that is. Expansion at RTM would have major noise problems. I don't know what their movement quota is, but it's not enough. I doubt they have the 'job creation' card to play either. Don't be constrained by thinking that all LoCo's carry AMS bound pax. I've travelled with many who are on business to elsewhere in NL. It's the train links from SPL that are the carrot. RTM & EHN just don't have those. For the charter pax I suspect the majority do not come from AMS. EHN & MST would have boomed years ago for charters if the noise lobby had let them. Put a rail link into both those airports, get realistic with noise limitations and watch the fireworks blast the economy. LEY would have the same effect if done properly and completely. That would be the necessary solution, not a wishy washy shed in a field solution. Usually when the Dutch do something they do it with the infrastructure they completely. I'm surprised they are dragging their feet on this one.
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