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Old 1st Feb 2002, 22:23
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Ummm.. think you will find that the same Aberdeen crews who were involved in the rejected bid by Alpine are now being put forward by the same people, who are now tied up with BAC.. .I dont think you'll see many Southend pilots getting a look in.
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Track Delta.... .What about the equally "good crews " from SEN who worked just as hard on the contract during their frequent postings to ABZ?. .Why should they "not get a look in" as suggested by Zeppelin?. .I also understand that the "ex-ATP Captain" has been instrumental in keeping the employment prospects for former BWA ATP pilots alive when the bid by Alpine was rejected.. .On the maintenance/reliability side for the ATP, who is going to look after this as I believe that Caledonian Airborne who were also involved with the Alpine bid went into Receivership earlier this week? . .Anyway, I hope the final outcome provides employment for you all...whether from North or South of Hadrian's Wall or even from "down under".

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But then, as the saying goes, its not what you know but who you know. Just make sure the ATP Captain's glass is never empty!
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I thought the decision was due on the 8th or 9th. Any idea why it's delayed to the 15th?
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No <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

Just means more waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Only a couple of days to go, and I've just heard that Brymon have withdrawn??????? Anybody care to confirm/deny this.
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Hi JFP

Yeah, heard this yesterday via a very reliable source. Who is left in the running? <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
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Old 13th Feb 2002, 22:32
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If true, any ideas why? Not enough seats? Couldn't meet the price?

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Old 14th Feb 2002, 02:24
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Sumburgh- those left in the running are

BAC Express - ATP. .Flightline - 146. .Atlantic (Faroes) - 146

The reason I've heard for the withdrawal is that either BA or BA CitiExpress requested it. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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Old 14th Feb 2002, 18:00
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Confirms what I have heard although I hear that only the two 146 companies are in the running. <img src="confused.gif" border="0"> <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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Old 14th Feb 2002, 18:13
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tenders opened yesterday, 13th.. .Winner to be announced next Friday, 22nd
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Old 14th Feb 2002, 21:03
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Why the long drawn out procedure. It really is getting stupid now.
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Old 14th Feb 2002, 23:03
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By pushing the date all the time is giving Flightline an operational advantage, as they are allready operating.....maybe the financial case is different...
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Please excuse my ignorance.....

But, why doesn't the oil consortium operate back at its old base LSI...A little bit more flexible fixed wing operations allowed there. I know hatred rules the roost between the bases but again, with plans to extend runway at LSI and the Airport owners at some point going to take Scatsta soon...makes sense to me!

Can those helis do not stop LSI to the rigs?

. .In addition, what happened to the new Dornier 328 operator that was due to take the old BA / Loganair ABZ services...Has it died?
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Old 15th Feb 2002, 16:34
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Massive cost savings in moving to Scatsta - HIAL wouldn't play ball to reduce costs @ LSI. Good example is that at SCS the Firecrew also do the baggage handling, at LSI it's two different crews.
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Old 15th Feb 2002, 16:42
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The firemen at SCS do everything and still find time to have a "kick-a-bout" on the apron. Good blokes.
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Nothing but NDB or SRA (if you can get it)on one end and no DME. No procedure for 06 at all except circling from 24, (minima 960ft), runway in such poor condition mainly due to lack of sweeping up of lose chippings etc that did a good job on grinding off the props tips to fine points!

Good blokes they may have been but the place is still a dump with an unacceptable standard of navaids for regular passenger transport and should never have been considered.
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As I understood it SCS was originally reopened to support the construction of Sullom Voe Terminal with good old Dan Dair HS748s and Loganair Bandits around 1978. Ops to the rigs were expressly forbidden at that stage hence the 748's into ABZ and the Dash-7's into Unst.

I left there in '83 at the end of construction and offshore ops from SCS were still verboten then so I've no idea when it changed.

Ah 748, 20tonne twin dog whistle. Some of the DD crews got them in in horrendous conditions. I have no idea what the 748's limits were but it looked impressive to me.

Good luck to whoever gets the contract. From my experience in the North Sea, aircraft maintenance must be horrendous in the prevailing conditions.
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It appears that the Oil Consortium can't make the decision, they've put it back another week. It's getting ridiculous. <img src="frown.gif" border="0">
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Old 22nd Feb 2002, 18:15
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I hear that one oil company wants the ATP's while the rest want to stick with the 146's. How true this is I do not know.. . <img src="confused.gif" border="0"> <img src="confused.gif" border="0"> <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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