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Amazing how things seem to develop! The last presentation that I saw for EGCC development made no mention of T4.
It would appear at the present time that T2 will have an extension to its pier to have stands 216-219 served and an almost doubling of the terminal size itself. Future plans then show an increase in remote parking to the north of stand 71. The final plan indicates that apron space will be extended around the northern pier of T2 to gives stands on the opposite side of the pier from 215-219.
Building a terminal on the southside would, in my own personal opinion, be a mistake with major problems for interlining passengers. Transfering T2 to T3 is a big enough problem already. There is a rumour that a connection might be built linking T1 and T2 from around the stand 22 to 200 area.
Have a happy Christmas one and all, and may 2001 be not only a prosperous but a safe year for us all.
Scottie Dog
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It would appear at the present time that T2 will have an extension to its pier to have stands 216-219 served and an almost doubling of the terminal size itself. Future plans then show an increase in remote parking to the north of stand 71. The final plan indicates that apron space will be extended around the northern pier of T2 to gives stands on the opposite side of the pier from 215-219.
Building a terminal on the southside would, in my own personal opinion, be a mistake with major problems for interlining passengers. Transfering T2 to T3 is a big enough problem already. There is a rumour that a connection might be built linking T1 and T2 from around the stand 22 to 200 area.
Have a happy Christmas one and all, and may 2001 be not only a prosperous but a safe year for us all.
Scottie Dog
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Happiness is a runway without a hump - 06R/24L
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Stuff for the expansion of T2 will be given the official and public go ahead once R24L / 06R is operating fully.
I've heard the same one about the link between T1 and 2 also - also in the stand 22 to 200 area. As anyone who visits Manch will testify the walk along the nicely lit but over long "Tube" between the two terminals is a pain. Especially when the travelators seem to be broken in the going home direction each night.
Makes an EG into not so much of an EG
The staff car park never seemed so far away!
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I've heard the same one about the link between T1 and 2 also - also in the stand 22 to 200 area. As anyone who visits Manch will testify the walk along the nicely lit but over long "Tube" between the two terminals is a pain. Especially when the travelators seem to be broken in the going home direction each night.
Makes an EG into not so much of an EG
The staff car park never seemed so far away!
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"Go around..I say again...go around"
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Scottie Dog is quite correct; there are no plans for Terminal 4.
I saw the latest architect's plans just 2 days ago. There are still many variables and possibilities going into the melting pot, most of which Scottie mentioned, and on which he was spot on.
Next definite development will indeed be the extension of Terminal 2 to take in stands 215-219.
The connection between Terminals 1 and 2 has been put a little on the back burner, as the general opinion is that it would not create significant increase in capacity, not help alleviate the taxiway congestion problems.
Remember the original idea years ago that there would be a remote pier where the remote stands currently are opposite Terminal 2?
That is currently the hot option people are looking at, but the underground link will NOT be from Terminal 2 as originally conceived, as it is felt that there is currently insufficient terminal space in T2 to cope with an extra 20 wide body gates
The latest plans show the demolition of part of the satellite at the end of Pier C in T1, losing stands 31 and 32. From there will extend underground travellators to the remote pier.
Although Taxiway Papa will be lost with the new construction, the demolition of stands 31 and 32 will facilitate a two way taxiway at the end of Pier C....No more congestion in the cul-de-sac !!!
This option will also mean that there will be uninterrupted access to Terminal 2 for aircraft, routing via Taxiway November whilst work goes on at the end of Pier C. There will be a temporary link, similar to Papa to achieve a 2 way flow during the work.
To keep the balance of remote stands, new stands will be created to the west of Taxiway November; aircraft will park nose-in, facing west. In the very long term, plans show this area could be used to extend Terminal 2 further. I also noted that there were 2 access roads planned for this part of Terminal 2 as well as a short term multi-storey car park.....obviously to avoid congetion at the main entrance to Terminal 2, or perhaps (and not my quote) for a low-cost operator to have their own gates and check-in facilities.
As I said though....all very fluid at the moment and nothing has yet been rubber stamped, except for the incorporation of stands 215-219.
Happy New Year all
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I saw the latest architect's plans just 2 days ago. There are still many variables and possibilities going into the melting pot, most of which Scottie mentioned, and on which he was spot on.
Next definite development will indeed be the extension of Terminal 2 to take in stands 215-219.
The connection between Terminals 1 and 2 has been put a little on the back burner, as the general opinion is that it would not create significant increase in capacity, not help alleviate the taxiway congestion problems.
Remember the original idea years ago that there would be a remote pier where the remote stands currently are opposite Terminal 2?
That is currently the hot option people are looking at, but the underground link will NOT be from Terminal 2 as originally conceived, as it is felt that there is currently insufficient terminal space in T2 to cope with an extra 20 wide body gates
The latest plans show the demolition of part of the satellite at the end of Pier C in T1, losing stands 31 and 32. From there will extend underground travellators to the remote pier.
Although Taxiway Papa will be lost with the new construction, the demolition of stands 31 and 32 will facilitate a two way taxiway at the end of Pier C....No more congestion in the cul-de-sac !!!
This option will also mean that there will be uninterrupted access to Terminal 2 for aircraft, routing via Taxiway November whilst work goes on at the end of Pier C. There will be a temporary link, similar to Papa to achieve a 2 way flow during the work.
To keep the balance of remote stands, new stands will be created to the west of Taxiway November; aircraft will park nose-in, facing west. In the very long term, plans show this area could be used to extend Terminal 2 further. I also noted that there were 2 access roads planned for this part of Terminal 2 as well as a short term multi-storey car park.....obviously to avoid congetion at the main entrance to Terminal 2, or perhaps (and not my quote) for a low-cost operator to have their own gates and check-in facilities.
As I said though....all very fluid at the moment and nothing has yet been rubber stamped, except for the incorporation of stands 215-219.
Happy New Year all
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I remember reading that the airport was planning a second rail link to the south west - to the Chester/Manchester line. Would this be to service a future south-side terminal, or just link up to the present rail station on the Crewe/Manchester line?
Anyone know?
SSD
Anyone know?
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And even then they may have to wait a bit longer....................
Oh yeah - EG's are a VERY rare event these days. VERY VERY rare. Too much work to do
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Oh yeah - EG's are a VERY rare event these days. VERY VERY rare. Too much work to do
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Well it seems that with just two weeks to go before the opening of the much heralded £172 million Runway 2 Manchester Airport PLC have just woken up to the fact that they will be unable to accommodate any more airlines as there is no office space available in any of the 3 terminals nor Commonwealth House nor Olympic House - companies are only being offered accommodation in the 'prestigious' World Freight Terminal - 1.5 miles away from Terminal 1 !
So who exactly is responsible for this gaff? Surely it would be prudent to build sufficent office accommodation to match the needs of your customers ? Even the 'Airport' pc game insists you have sufficent office space !
So who exactly is responsible for this gaff? Surely it would be prudent to build sufficent office accommodation to match the needs of your customers ? Even the 'Airport' pc game insists you have sufficent office space !
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Chaps,
What about giving MAN management a break?? R2 is a testimony to the sheer dedication and determination of the R2 Project Team. Airport development, like any construction affecting the local community, has a huge lead time and involves many parties.
In the interests of safety, building the infrastructure to get us in and out initially, surely beats the construction of a new terminal and subsequent enforced rise in rwy utilisation to justify it?
My compliments go to them for having the balls to run the project in this logical order. Whereever they choose to build T4, at least they've got their priorities right.
Keep 'em straight and level!
What about giving MAN management a break?? R2 is a testimony to the sheer dedication and determination of the R2 Project Team. Airport development, like any construction affecting the local community, has a huge lead time and involves many parties.
In the interests of safety, building the infrastructure to get us in and out initially, surely beats the construction of a new terminal and subsequent enforced rise in rwy utilisation to justify it?
My compliments go to them for having the balls to run the project in this logical order. Whereever they choose to build T4, at least they've got their priorities right.
Keep 'em straight and level!
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No MAN bashing intended, I think.
People laughed at the notion of a second runway when it was first suggested.
It's a testament to dilligence, foresight, ambition and sheer hard work that we now have R2.
Only one thing missing......
BRING BACK GILL THOMPSON !!!
His legacy was that whilst in charge, not a single airline pulled out of MAN.
And a gentleman to boot, too.
No MAN bashing intended, I think.
People laughed at the notion of a second runway when it was first suggested.
It's a testament to dilligence, foresight, ambition and sheer hard work that we now have R2.
Only one thing missing......
BRING BACK GILL THOMPSON !!!
His legacy was that whilst in charge, not a single airline pulled out of MAN.
And a gentleman to boot, too.