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Old 11th May 2012, 10:25
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Thanks MAN777 clearly not lost my spotting skills......
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I believe there may well be another aeronautical movement at WFD next week...
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I believe there may well be another aeronautical movement at WFD next week...
I believe the Vulcan is being ferried out to Cosford for a re-spray. That is all.
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Old 12th May 2012, 15:09
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More likely to blow away in the wind Skipness

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Old 14th May 2012, 10:35
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And there's more ..........

De Havilland Hornet Moth G-ADND will land at Woodford on 18 May sometime after 1100. The aircraft is part of the 75th anniversary first landing at Ringway event and is due to fly VFR EGCC-EGCD on Firday, departing for Barton sometime later.
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Old 14th May 2012, 19:20
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Are you sure Woodford, it's not licensed these days.

Manchester Evening New is saying MAN around 11.15am
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Old 14th May 2012, 19:31
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Yes Woodford, they also had a Citation in on Thursday

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Old 14th May 2012, 20:11
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ACCMan is correct.

G-ADND is due in MAN on Thursday, 75 years ago to the day it was the first aircraft to use Ringway.

It will go to EGCD on Friday; it has no requirement to use a licensed airfield.

All this is weather dependent and unfortunately the forecast doesn't look too good, but fingers crossed.

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Found picture of the Citation on the ground at Woodford on 10th, so what are the restrictions, or otherwise, of using an unlicensed/disused airfield?

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Old 18th May 2012, 11:20
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G-ADND is now on the ground Woodford after landing on RWY 07 at 'own discretion'. Could this be the last ever landing at EGCD? The new owners and site developers are due to hold an exhibition of their plans at the airfield next Friday.

> News > Woodford housing plans due out for consultation - Place North West
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Old 18th May 2012, 22:37
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Photo of Citation

G-PWNS - 1996 build Cessna 525 CitationJet, parked on the 07 threshold at Woodford (disused) !! | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

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Old 19th May 2012, 13:26
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XM603 will never have daylight under its tyres again, but its future looks secure as Avro Heritage are committed to keeping her as part of the heritage centre which is being created alongside the 1926 A.V.Roe hangar on the south side. Oh, I forgot, the hangar is in fact older than the aerodrome, it was taken there from Alexandra Park in Manchester when that closed in 1924.

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Old 25th May 2012, 08:20
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Predictably, lots of expensive houses.....

1,000 houses, school and pub plan for home of the Nimrod at former BAE site in Woodford | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk

"Controversial plans to build nearly 1,000 homes on the site of the former BAE Systems at Woodford were being revealed today."
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Old 25th May 2012, 17:42
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So what happened to the "only 450 homes, cricket field, natural woodland and film centre" ????

Typical council / big contractors carve up.
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Old 25th May 2012, 22:59
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Interestingly the documents at the info day showed the Northeast portion of the runway as "retained" - That's the section which lies within the Cheshire East greenbelt. Wonder if the developers have any plans for safeguarding or noise mitigation as some of the Garden Village will lie very close to the southwest threshold.........
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Off Runway excursion at Woodford

Of the non - aeronautical variety I should mention.

Sounds rather nasty.

Pictured: Wreckage of £150,000 Lamborghini supercar crashed on birthday treat ride at Woodford aerodrome | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk
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Sorry the guy was hurt ... but shouldn't have happened. Not exactly a positive story about the airfield is it?

Would be better if Avro Heritage were giving 'special permisson' for aviation related use of the airfield.
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In the thread linked below, Poynton Council has released details of plans for the other end of the runway not covered by the plans above:

Poynton]Poynton, Bramhall, Hazel Grove Forums • View topic - Poynton Town Strategy, Bramhall, Hazel Grove Forums • View topic - Poynton Town Strategy

more about Woodford redevelopment here:

Woodford Garden Village | Home Page

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Old 29th Jul 2012, 16:05
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More coming out on the future of the Woodford Site with the Woodford Garden Village Supplementary Planning Document (SPD) having just been published.

http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/do...nsultation.pdf

There will be a statutory six week consultation running from Monday 3 September - Monday 15 October 2012. Final approval of the SPD at the end of 2012. Timescale and key dates for the completion of the SPD process here

Stockport Council - Woodford BAE Systems Site

Some key aviation related points

Para 4.7 - Due to conflicts with the flight path with Manchester Airport the runway is not being retained for aviation use.

Para 4.9.2 Oxford Aviation will remain in their existing premises and an access will be provided through any new development from Chester Road;

Para 4.9.3 The heritage centre will remain on the site but accommodated in a new building

Para 4.39 The built heritage significance of the assets that comprise Woodford Aerodrome have been identified and assessed in the Heritage Assessment which is appended to the Report of Survey. The Runway and Control Tower, and M U Stores (part of the Adlington Industrial Estate) are considered to be of local heritage interest, while Lancashire Aero Clubhouse
and the Avro Shed, the Aircraft Factory and Hangars 1-5 are individually considered as of local heritage interest, although they form the main components of the Aerodrome, which collectively is considered to be of regional heritage importance. This is primarily based upon their condition, construction date and association with the documentary and archival evidence maintained by the Avro Heritage Centre.

Para 4.40 Accordingly, in order to protect the significance of heritage assets on the site, any development should secure the following
safeguards:
1 A masterplan which protects the settings of nearby Listed Buildings;
2 A programme of historic building recording;
3 A programme of archaeological work customised to address the archaeological potential of the proposed development;
4 The continued maintenance of the Avro archive within a Heritage Centre on the site
5 The retention of the Vulcan bomber in association with
the Heritage Centre;
and,
6 A development that reflects the history of the aviation use of the site, for example, by ensuring that the line of the former runway remains legible within the proposed site layout.

Para 5.18 The Oxford Aviation building and associated car parking will remain and continue to be used as an aviation training facility (Class B1). The Phase 2 extension to the existing building remains to be completed but it may be implemented in accordance with the extant planning permission #DC/044109].

Para 5.19 A new Heritage Centre is intended to be located to the north of
the Oxford Aviation building to explain the historic association of Woodford Aerodrome with Avro, BAE Systems and the production of several aircraft, including the Lancaster, Vulcan and Nimrod. It will comprise a purpose-built structure, with associated car parking and external display space for the Vulcan (currently parked elsewhere on the site).


To summarise the proposals
No more flying on the site
New Heritage Centre to be built. Vulcan to be preserved outside it.
Oxford Aviation operations (simulator) to continue


So could it be that the Hornet Moth was the last movement at the aerodrome?

The bits of the site to be built on will be mostly housing rather than for industrial use. See paras 4.59 and 4.60. Para 2.23 states that "The site ownership is currently split between Redrow Homes Ltd and Avro Heritage Ltd. Harrow Estates plc (part of the Redrow Group of Companies) has in addition an option to purchase the Avro Heritage Ltd land which enables a comprehensive vision to be considered for the site’s future. Oxford Aviation has the benefit of a lease.The Aero Golf Club own the golf course on the south-western corner of the site".

Hardly surprising then to see the housing priority but much of the open area will be retained especially the east and south east areas of the site being in Green Belt.

And finally para 5.15.3 suggests that an appropriate use in the new village area would be "A public house (Use Class A4) with a floorspace not exceeding 650sq.m. (net), where it is accessible to future residents by non-car modes of transport. I wonder what the name could be if one is built?

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Old 29th Jul 2012, 18:08
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And there ends a big chapter in my life.

Started work there in 71, thousands worked there at the time, passed my apprenticeship, went on many test flights and working trips from there.

Left in 89 for pastures new having learnt the trade.

Return on 3 occasions as a PPL just to get it in the log book.

Sad day indeed.
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