Suckling Airways
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See for example this online photo:
Do you really want to tell me it looks better on this side?
(Incidentally, this and other photos are here - I happen to think the aircraft looks quite good in this livery with the exception of the tail. Where's Mrs Thatcher's hanky when you need it?)
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The answer would have been to move the registration slightly further along the fuselage, and then thicken the logo (yes, I know the airline doesn't really care).
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Looks great to me. Even better is to see the aircraft still flying and people still working with them. If Loganair hadn't come in when they did then who knows what would have happened but I doubt it would have been good.
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(I realise this is a slightly abstract debate - I would be (happily) surprised if the airline changed this now!)
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Looks OK if a little different. I remember seeing the scheme on the KLM ERJ190s and realising the logo was way too far up the tail. "Dear Sir......." hmmmm
Suckling in an interesting position nowadays if you think about it.
Now owned by Loganair, who do all their flying under the FlyBe brand, who in turn have a minority ownership and much integration with BA, and thus OneWorld.
However, apart from the aircraft shown above in FlyBe colours and for a FlyBe branded route, a lot of what Suckling do is out of London City (and it's good to see them increasingly back here again doing this, with multiple based aircraft again. Now this is all under the CityJet brand, and they are in turn owned by Air France, and thus under the SkyTeam banner.
Any of the Star Alliance carriers got any work for them ?
Now owned by Loganair, who do all their flying under the FlyBe brand, who in turn have a minority ownership and much integration with BA, and thus OneWorld.
However, apart from the aircraft shown above in FlyBe colours and for a FlyBe branded route, a lot of what Suckling do is out of London City (and it's good to see them increasingly back here again doing this, with multiple based aircraft again. Now this is all under the CityJet brand, and they are in turn owned by Air France, and thus under the SkyTeam banner.
Any of the Star Alliance carriers got any work for them ?
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WHBM - take a look at Flybe themselves.
15% owned by British Airways, in a joint venture partnership with Finnair for Flybe Nordic. Considerable codeshare operation with Air France and if rumours on this site are to be believed, about to enter an agreement with Brussels Airlines.
All three major alliances covered and yet still independant. I'm not sure there is anyone else in Europe in commercial agreements of some description with all three competing alliances.
15% owned by British Airways, in a joint venture partnership with Finnair for Flybe Nordic. Considerable codeshare operation with Air France and if rumours on this site are to be believed, about to enter an agreement with Brussels Airlines.
All three major alliances covered and yet still independant. I'm not sure there is anyone else in Europe in commercial agreements of some description with all three competing alliances.
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Cyrano - understood, however my main point was that BE's relationships with the three main alliances is more than just codeshares.
BE themselves are part owned by BA. With AY, BE share part ownership of another airline.
With SN, BE appear to be verging on providing longer term wet lease contract services, and with AF the main CDG routes from BHX/MAN are operated as joint services (verging on part contract really), with a fairly extensive codeshare on other routes.
BE themselves are part owned by BA. With AY, BE share part ownership of another airline.
With SN, BE appear to be verging on providing longer term wet lease contract services, and with AF the main CDG routes from BHX/MAN are operated as joint services (verging on part contract really), with a fairly extensive codeshare on other routes.
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Ah yes, OK, I see what you mean.
Arguably the stronger relationships are the AY and AF ones where BE is effectively flying for the other carriers. The BA shareholding came about - as I understand it - as part-consideration for flyBE's acquisition of BA Connect, rather than BA wanting a strategic investment in flyBE as part of its network options.
With this Brussels Airlines deal (like the Olympic one a couple of years ago), BE is essentially providing cost-effective feeder capacity, much like the regional carriers in the US do for their mainline partners. What's interesting is that in the US, it's common for a single regional carrier to fly for two or even three competing mainline carriers, i.e. to have subfleets painted in the different liveries. In parallel with their "own" network, perhaps this is one path forward for flyBE?
Arguably the stronger relationships are the AY and AF ones where BE is effectively flying for the other carriers. The BA shareholding came about - as I understand it - as part-consideration for flyBE's acquisition of BA Connect, rather than BA wanting a strategic investment in flyBE as part of its network options.
With this Brussels Airlines deal (like the Olympic one a couple of years ago), BE is essentially providing cost-effective feeder capacity, much like the regional carriers in the US do for their mainline partners. What's interesting is that in the US, it's common for a single regional carrier to fly for two or even three competing mainline carriers, i.e. to have subfleets painted in the different liveries. In parallel with their "own" network, perhaps this is one path forward for flyBE?
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I think you're absolutely right and the Chairman and CEO of BE said just this in a recent interview in the Telegraph commenting that he could see BE taking the lead in providing contract regional services to a number of EU airlines.
It will be interesting to see how this might develop.
It will be interesting to see how this might develop.
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Does anybody know if Suckling airways has a cabin crew base at Edinburgh.
Also, how are things going now that Suckling has been bought by Loganair, has there been any significant changes to working conditions or are there any new plans for new routes for the dornier 328 planes to be used on.
Cheers.
Also, how are things going now that Suckling has been bought by Loganair, has there been any significant changes to working conditions or are there any new plans for new routes for the dornier 328 planes to be used on.
Cheers.