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[irishlad06]

Honestly looks like a slot filler timetable.

[BAladdy]

DUB-LHR W12/13 combined schedule

Below is the planned combined W12/13 schedule for flight to LHR.

EI0149 LHR 06:50 DUB 08:10 x7
BA0832 LHR 06:55 DUB 08:05 x7
BA0830 LHR 07:50 DUB 09:05 x7
EI0151 LHR 07:50 DUB 09:10 D
EI0153 LHR 08:50 DUB 10:05 D
BA0830 LHR 08:55 DUB 10:05 7
BA0834 LHR 09:50 DUB 11:05 x6
BA0834 LHR 09:55 DUB 11:10 6
EI0155 LHR 10:00 DUB 11:15 D
EI0157 LHR 11:05 DUB 12:25 D
BA0836 LHR 12:30 DUB 13:45 x456
BA0836 LHR 12:35 DUB 13:50 46
EI0159 LHR 12:35 DUB 13:55 D
BA0836 LHR 12:45 DUB 14:00 5
EI0163 LHR 14:25 DUB 15:45 D
EI0169 LHR 16:20 DUB 17:35 D
BA0838 LHR 16:50 DUB 18:00 17
BA0838 LHR 17:00 DUB 18:10 x17
EI0173 LHR 17:45 DUB 19:05 D
BA0828 LHR 17:50 DUB 19:00 x56
BA0828 LHR 18:00 DUB 19:10 5
EI0175 LHR 18:45 DUB 20:00 D
EI0177 LHR 19:45 DUB 21:05 x6
BA0826 LHR 20:10 DUB 21:20 x57
EI0179 LHR 20:45 DUB 22:00 D
BA0824 LHR 21:15 DUB 22:25 D


BA0823 DUB 06:25 LHR 07:40 x67
EI0152 DUB 06:40 LHR 08:05 D
BA0831 DUB 06:45 LHR 08:00 3
BA0823 DUB 07:30 LHR 08:50 7
BA0831 DUB 07:35 LHR 08:50 46
BA0831 DUB 07:45 LHR 09:00 125
EI0154 DUB 07:45 LHR 09:10 D
BA0833 DUB 08:45 LHR 10:05 x7
EI0156 DUB 09:00 LHR 10:20 D
BA0843 DUB 09:15 LHR 10:35 7
EI0158 DUB 10:20 LHR 11:40 D
BA0845 DUB 10:50 LHR 12:05 D
BA0835 DUB 11:45 LHR 13:05 x245
EI0162 DUB 12:10 LHR 13:30 D
BA0835 DUB 12:40 LHR 14:00 4
BA0835 DUB 12:55 LHR 14:15 25
EI0168 DUB 14:10 LHR 15:25 D
BA0837 DUB 14:35 LHR 15:50 D
EI0172 DUB 15:30 LHR 16:50 D
EI0174 DUB 16:30 LHR 17:50 D
EI0176 DUB 17:30 LHR 18:50 x6
EI0178 DUB 18:30 LHR 19:50 D
BA0839 DUB 18:45 LHR 19:55 D
BA0829 DUB 19:40 LHR 20:55 x156
BA0829 DUB 19:40 LHR 20:55 x156
EI0184 DUB 19:45 LHR 21:05 D
BA0829 DUB 19:50 LHR 21:00 15
EI0186 DUB 20:45 LHR 22:05 x6


BA's flights will be operated either by a A319 or a A320 aircraft configured to offer a two class service, Club Europe and Euro Traveller. All flights will operate to and from Terminal 1 at LHR.

[Jamie2k9]

Over 2 million passengers in July down 0.7% due to domestic closures on 21 July 2011.

UK - 620,000 down 6%
European - 1.2 million up 1%
Transatlantic - 190,000 flat (good considering a slight reduction in seats)
Middle East/Africa - 46,000 up 75%
Domestic - 6,000 down 53%

Almost 11 million year to date less than 1% decline.

Latest News > More Than 2M Passengers Used Dublin Airport in July

[Mlinnie]

Good to hear that the passenger numbers are almost level with last year

On another note how likely is it that next we could see these routes being operated ?

Reykjavik with Icelandair
Los Angeles or San Francisco with United
Moscow with Aeroflot
Tel Aviv with EL AI
Luxembourg with Cityjet ?

Thanks

[Charlie Roy]

Great post BAladdy regarding the EI/BA combined DUB-LHR schedule!

[Tom the Tenor]

Dont forget to include a Cork to Dublin in that list!

We, in Cork, are lost without it!

[quantumofcheese]

Emirates B777-31HER [A6-EGO] 1000th 777 at Dublin | 18-08-2012

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[MidlandDeltic]

How does this look for the EI code share?

Dead in the water I suspect - unless they ARE just short-term slot-fillers. Certainly, if BA are operating two-class, all business class transfer traffic will migrate to BA. Where this leaves Cork and Shannon is anyones guess.

Why would BA do this? My own theory is that EI tying up with Etihad is a factor, as it would channel Ireland - Middle East and potentially Ireland - Far East / Australia traffic away from LHR and, by extension, BA. By operating their own services they can defend those markets.

Just my 2c.

MD

[stab3.5up]

Or maybe Willie W just is giving EI the two fingers. Either way you look at it it is kinda hard to beat what BA are offering now, as it is one airline from DUB to end destination.

And i guess EI cant exactly start a price war or BA would I suspect pull the codeshare. I have heard from a source who says that he knows for sure that a work friend of his has assured him that he heard through the grapevine that BA are also looking at LGW from DUB and one more possible destination ex-DUB. Can anyone shed any light on this?

[TSR2]

I have heard from a source who says that he knows for sure that a work friend of his has assured him that he heard through the grapevine

That's a cracker.

[DublinPole]

Can't see Cork to Dublin coming back, now the train has come down in price if booked ahead and now there are express non stop luxury coaches between the two cities. There is now even less of a demand for it than there was when it was first stopped.

[Skipness One Echo]

There appears to be an understanding that against your common garden variety legacy carrier, it's just competition. There is some degree of respect between the old flag carriers and some of the new guys, even between the likes of BA and EZY. However the middle Eastern goliaths are seen by some (not all) as to be beyond the pale and by getting into bed with Etihad, Aer Lingus have crossed a line. These airlines are perhaps (feared) seen in a way that KLM and Lufthansa are not.

[EI-A330-300]

Skipness One Echo you are right about EY/EI thing but my view is:
BA timetable for coming winter is a slot filler as with new LBA service.
Don't think the 8 daily will be carried through next summer.
BA might be P***** of with EI now but in a year or two BA will drop Dublin flights a substancial amount or a possible full pull out when they find more profitable routes to use the slots and will have no choice but to come back to EI for there feed from DUB,ORK,SNN
Also EI feed the majority of long haul carriers at LHR and I also think that BA are possible anoyed that EI are taking a substancial % of UK regional T/A traffic which would normally go through LHR. (ABZ, EDI, MAN, GLA in particular)

[j636]

According to EK CEO a second flight to Dublin will be added within 18 months but I have read a few places that it could be much sooner than that.

[Skipness One Echo]

BA timetable for coming winter is a slot filler as with new LBA service.

It's clearly a partial slot filler, that's not the same thing as holding to drop a route. Is there a compelling reason why Ireland ought to be the only major European capital without a BA LHR connection? BA lost money as their cost base was out of kilter with the market, that has been rectified and as Mixed Fleet grows that will only get better.
I am old enough to remember Aer Lingus replacing jets (BAC111 / B737) on the Scottish routes with Fokker 50s and increasing frequency, with a view to feeding DUB and long haul. It did not set the heather alight then, nor will it do so now. Even with preclearance and all the good stuff therein, Aer Lingus is a minor player on the atlantic, commeasurate with the size of it's home market.

BA are possible anoyed that EI are taking a substancial % of UK regional T/A traffic which would normally go through LHR. (ABZ, EDI, MAN, GLA in particular)

It's not substantial given EI are only offering five flights daily ex DUB to popular BA destinations and feeding with ATRs. Having said that I do agree that EI is a very good option from those regions, however EI have never taken it to the limit of possibilities therein. I still recall an article about the SF340 NCL-DUB-JFK service where the Newcastle Airport manager got practically moist at what this was going to become. We're still waiting 20+ years later. Aviation is cruelly cyclical!

You say BA will pull out when they find more profitable uses for the slots, however BA need the short haul feed to make those long haul routes work, and the BA product on short haul is better than EI, in my view. Also given Mr Walsh's heritage it would be a brave exec who pushed for a Belfast/Dublin pull out without a watertight business case. I also suspect LBA may yet work out as BA have happily taken an axe to the remaining BMI network, there does appear to be room for both.

[dublinaviator]

Emirates to sponsor MasterChef Ireland on RTÉ, which "will include an Emirates-dedicated task, challenging contestants to prepare and cook a First Class meal with produce that will work at altitude":

Emirates to be sole sponsor of MasterChef Ireland - Marketing - Marketing | Ireland's online business and management news service - Businessandleadership.com

Emirates CEO, Tim Clark, will also appear in one of the episodes as a judge.

[Sober Lark]

Emirates are also to sponsor DIY SOS where contestants are building a dedicated EK first and business class lounge for use of their customers in DUB.

[PPRuNeUser0176]

Emirates are also to sponsor DIY SOS where contestants are building a dedicated EK first and business class lounge for use of their customers in DUB.

where will it be located, beside EI/EY ones?

[stab3.5up]

ba to lhr

have just flown with ba frm lhr. what a fantastic product on offer. ei have a lot to do to offer a service similar. im happy to pay a few euros more to be treated as a person not just a passenfer. good luck ba.

[EuroWings]

have just flown with ba frm lhr. what a fantastic product on offer. ei have a lot to do to offer a service similar. im happy to pay a few euros more to be treated as a person not just a passenfer. good luck ba.

Where does bmi fit in here? Dublin isn't a BA start up. The services out of Heathrow T1 don't seem to have changed all that much since the takeover, the only changes I noticed was the aircraft's exterior livery and the BA branded tea/coffee cups and snack (complimentary now)! The staff were in bmi uniforms a month ago, except with stickers on their name badges...

...it's a nice product, but not terribly inferior to what bmi offered. Major difference is OneWorld and frequency.