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Bubbles burst over there im afraid, Its only going one way, whilst MAN goes in the opposite direction and will continue to do so, with very positive growth forcast for the next five years
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Please, please let us not have another outbreak of MAN v LPL wisecracks
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CAA Confirm rise of 3.2% in April.
But look at Liverpool losing a whopping 20% of their passengers in the month. Wow.
These are magnificent results passenger wise considering LJLA has had a 24pc reduction in available flights. This means airlines have had a large increase in bums on seats well done Liverpool
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CAA Confirm rise of 3.2% in April.
But look at Liverpool losing a whopping 20% of their passengers in the month. Wow.
These are magnificent results passenger wise considering LJLA has had a 24pc reduction in available flights. This means airlines have had a large increase in bums on seats well done Liverpool
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But look at Liverpool losing a whopping 20% of their passengers in the month. Wow.These are magnificent results passenger wise considering LJLA has had a 24pc reduction in available flights. This means airlines have had a large increase in bums on seats well done Liverpool
And worthy of the plot of the Thick of It.
A 20% decrease might well increase the number of passengers per movement on the remaining flights, but we don't know what the number of seats reduced by
In addition a 20% decrease in passengers doesn't do much for LPL Airport Company's revenue.....
especially if it has not been budgeted for...
Anyway this is the Manchester thread - perhaps we can have an intelligent discussion on the dynamic of passenger demand and behaviour in the NW?
It looks to me to be changing again. Why? It's critical mass. MAN is now attracting the low cost boys with sufficient volume and variety to add to its already wide portfolio of flights by legacy carriers both long and short haul, so that there is often a flight to where people want to go when they want to go and at a price that suits. In addition there has been a concentration in the last couple of years on trying to get the MAN passenger experience right (such as it can be in an airport nowadays) and a considerable amount of capital has been spent on this.
And interestingly, there have been management changes at both MAN and LPL airports in the last 18 months or so. Wonder if that has also had an effect?
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As an impartial observer who takes frequent low cost flight led weekend breaks and someone who lives equidistant to both airports I must say whereas from 7/8 years ago up until 12 months ago I always looked first to LPL for a cheap flight, I now find myself looking at MAN first.
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I think a discussion of the fall in traffic at LPL is valid for the Manchester thread, as the presumption must be that many of those pax are now travelling from Ringway.
I would also point out that the CAA figures are provisional and subject to change. I have certainly noticed large shifts in numbers between the provisonal figures and the final statistics. Such a massive reduction in numbers at LPL may be due to the simple fact that not all traffic in April has yet been accounted for.
Finally, according to the provisional figures, Stansted carried more passengers than Manchester last month - the first time that has happened for quite some time.
I would also point out that the CAA figures are provisional and subject to change. I have certainly noticed large shifts in numbers between the provisonal figures and the final statistics. Such a massive reduction in numbers at LPL may be due to the simple fact that not all traffic in April has yet been accounted for.
Finally, according to the provisional figures, Stansted carried more passengers than Manchester last month - the first time that has happened for quite some time.
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News / Manchester set to land direct Far East flights THEBUSINESSDESK.COM
Apart from Cathay not sure who the other 3 would be... Oasis, Vietnam airlines?
Doubt Malaysian as they have enough problems.
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Apart from Cathay not sure who the other 3 would be... Oasis, Vietnam airlines?
Doubt Malaysian as they have enough problems.
NMS
Originally Posted by TheBusinessDesk.com
MANCHESTER Airports Group is closing in on deals with international airlines which will see direct routes from Manchester to the Far East beginning soon.
Chief operating officer Andrew Harrison told business leaders in Liverpool last night that two key factors - the recent creation of a hub at Manchester by FlyBe and the forthcoming launch of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner - had sparked new interest from international carriers.
"The FlyBe hub is really starting to work for them - it's early days - but passenger demand has shot up by as much as 120% in some routes, and it makes unviable routes more viable.
"We are talking to four international airlines, about routes currently unserved from Manchester, which will be fantastic news for this region."
Mr Harrison said the new Boeing Dreamliner is a "game-changing" aircraft for the North West and would make sirect routes to the west coast of the US as well as China and the Far East more viable.
He told the CBI's Making Connections dinner at the Hilton Hotel that international airlines were starting to notice, that with capacity close to maximum at Heathrow and Gatwick, that Manchester is a real alternative.
"I think people have seen the success of Emirates and Etihad from Manchester and that they can connect people differently - not through Heathrow."
Mr Harrison said that although there is opportunities for regional airports like Manchester and Liverpool to benefit from the problems at Heathrow - the UK aviation sector is facing a number of challenges, most notable Air Passenger Duty and other regulations which put UK airports at a competitive disadvantage to European peers.
"As a trading nation, we can't isolate ourselves from the world - and Air Passenger Duty is already having an impact in how international airlines view us.
"We recently lost out on a direct route to Kuala Lumpur to Paris for that reason."
Chief operating officer Andrew Harrison told business leaders in Liverpool last night that two key factors - the recent creation of a hub at Manchester by FlyBe and the forthcoming launch of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner - had sparked new interest from international carriers.
"The FlyBe hub is really starting to work for them - it's early days - but passenger demand has shot up by as much as 120% in some routes, and it makes unviable routes more viable.
"We are talking to four international airlines, about routes currently unserved from Manchester, which will be fantastic news for this region."
Mr Harrison said the new Boeing Dreamliner is a "game-changing" aircraft for the North West and would make sirect routes to the west coast of the US as well as China and the Far East more viable.
He told the CBI's Making Connections dinner at the Hilton Hotel that international airlines were starting to notice, that with capacity close to maximum at Heathrow and Gatwick, that Manchester is a real alternative.
"I think people have seen the success of Emirates and Etihad from Manchester and that they can connect people differently - not through Heathrow."
Mr Harrison said that although there is opportunities for regional airports like Manchester and Liverpool to benefit from the problems at Heathrow - the UK aviation sector is facing a number of challenges, most notable Air Passenger Duty and other regulations which put UK airports at a competitive disadvantage to European peers.
"As a trading nation, we can't isolate ourselves from the world - and Air Passenger Duty is already having an impact in how international airlines view us.
"We recently lost out on a direct route to Kuala Lumpur to Paris for that reason."
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Apart from Cathay not sure who the other 3 would be... Oasis, Vietnam airlines?
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Apart from Cathay not sure who the other 3 would be... Oasis, Vietnam airlines?
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Who said it would be lo-cost