All BA Staff to take 2 weeks unpaid leave
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All BA Staff to take 2 weeks unpaid leave
Just been announced that ALL BA staff are to take 2 weeks unpaid leave.
That's basically losing 1/2 a months salary, thats a bit of a blow for many people who struggle from month to month paying the mortgage.
Is that even legal
That's basically losing 1/2 a months salary, thats a bit of a blow for many people who struggle from month to month paying the mortgage.
Is that even legal
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Sorry, I don't believe a word of this. Is it April 1st?
Whoever announced what can announce away. I am not aware of any way BA could impose or enforce such as scheme. Can be done voluntarily as was done in the past with BRS but imposed, I don't think so. Also, if WW did try to impose such a scheme, it doesn't quite sit with "employee engagement".
Whoever announced what can announce away. I am not aware of any way BA could impose or enforce such as scheme. Can be done voluntarily as was done in the past with BRS but imposed, I don't think so. Also, if WW did try to impose such a scheme, it doesn't quite sit with "employee engagement".
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Unpaid leave can not be forced in the UK as it is against European employment law.
If they want to go this way, they will need to ask for volunteers. The process of volunteering will almost certainly conclude in a revised flexible approach based on the number of days, eg 5 or 10.
It is of course different in the States.
Many major worldwide businesses are currently adopting this path and the savings are astronmical in going along way to preventing redundancy.
If they want to go this way, they will need to ask for volunteers. The process of volunteering will almost certainly conclude in a revised flexible approach based on the number of days, eg 5 or 10.
It is of course different in the States.
Many major worldwide businesses are currently adopting this path and the savings are astronmical in going along way to preventing redundancy.
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I think it is more the case of BA wanting staff to take some form of unpaid leave but I don't think it is mandatory. I am sure there are lots of people who are in a position to take advantage of this though.
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Can't imagine it.
When I go on leave, someone has to come over from LHR to do my job. Getting this guy takes a lot of organisation and give and take. We rarely take all our paid leave nowadays because of the hassle and fwd planning involved. Place will grind to a halt.
When I go on leave, someone has to come over from LHR to do my job. Getting this guy takes a lot of organisation and give and take. We rarely take all our paid leave nowadays because of the hassle and fwd planning involved. Place will grind to a halt.
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My heart bleeds for you, really.. (NOT!)
Either way, its pretty unusual that this would be announced on a Sunday. And I doubt it'd be legal. If it were true the unions would be crying murder...
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Unpaid leave can not be forced in the UK as it is against European employment law.
It can be forced as long as it applies to everyone.
Indeed, it'd probably be more effective for BA to ask for volunteers for such unpaid leave and even let the volunteer decide if they want 2, 3, 10 weeks.
What a desperate shame that this thread has started without any source being cited. It might be one big untrue rumour
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I think someone has read/heard half a soundbite and then tried to make a scoop out of it.
The only thing I can find reporting anything similarly close is a piece by Robert Peston from Friday, in which he states:
BBC - Peston's Picks: BA: Loaded down
The only thing I can find reporting anything similarly close is a piece by Robert Peston from Friday, in which he states:
Also it is cutting costs: staff are being offered the option of temporary or permanent part-time working and unpaid leave;
BBC - Peston's Picks: BA: Loaded down
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Here's the email
Dear All,
In our year end results released today (May 22, 2009) - we have announced a full year operating loss of £220 million and pre-tax loss of £401 million, amid the harshest trading environment in the airline's history.
Over the next week, there will be the opportunity to discuss the impact of these results through local and corporate briefings. Your line managers will let you know when and where these are taking place.
We are heading for a second, consecutive year of losses; this is unprecedented in our history. We are now fighting for our business survival. This survival depends on our ability to permanently removing cost from every part of the business, and doing it quickly.
In order to make some immediate savings, we need everyone to take a minimum of two weeks unpaid leave or the equivalent in temporary or permanent part-time working. Kate Ling, Head of HR Europe, Asia & Pacific and Africa, will be sending a communication to you with the details around these options and the process to follow in submitting requests. .
Unfortunately, there is no recovery in sight for the global economy. We need to do all we can now in order to ensure the long term survival of British Airways.
Dear All,
In our year end results released today (May 22, 2009) - we have announced a full year operating loss of £220 million and pre-tax loss of £401 million, amid the harshest trading environment in the airline's history.
Over the next week, there will be the opportunity to discuss the impact of these results through local and corporate briefings. Your line managers will let you know when and where these are taking place.
We are heading for a second, consecutive year of losses; this is unprecedented in our history. We are now fighting for our business survival. This survival depends on our ability to permanently removing cost from every part of the business, and doing it quickly.
In order to make some immediate savings, we need everyone to take a minimum of two weeks unpaid leave or the equivalent in temporary or permanent part-time working. Kate Ling, Head of HR Europe, Asia & Pacific and Africa, will be sending a communication to you with the details around these options and the process to follow in submitting requests. .
Unfortunately, there is no recovery in sight for the global economy. We need to do all we can now in order to ensure the long term survival of British Airways.
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"we need everyone to take a minimum of two weeks unpaid leave or the equivalent in temporary or permanent part-time working"
"we need" is not the same as "you will", this is voluntary.
"we need" is not the same as "you will", this is voluntary.
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If BA is overstaffed (quite likely) then the obvious answer is...last in first out.
Lay folks off on a temporary basis until business improves.
It ain't rocket science, now is it...?
Lay folks off on a temporary basis until business improves.
It ain't rocket science, now is it...?
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From what I've heard from people at BA, they are trying to keep as many people as possible (i.e. all flight/cabin crew at the very least) so that when the upturn does happen, they can accelerate out of it before their rivals.
This is only a rumour and this is potentially only one point of view, might I add.
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This is only a rumour and this is potentially only one point of view, might I add.
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last in first out
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Last in , first out......Whats fair about that?...Thats how the fat Seniors stay safe and the struggling newbies get dumped on the "Bottom of the list merry go round".Thank you Balpa for my interesting life
Last in , first out......Whats fair about that?...Thats how the fat Seniors stay safe and the struggling newbies get dumped on the "Bottom of the list merry go round".Thank you Balpa for my interesting life
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There are a number of acerbic comments there.
Whilst the company may not be able to enforce compulsory unpaid leave in Europe, they are more cavalier in places like Africa, Middle East and Far East.
I have also heard about the 2 weeks unpaid leave for customer service staff in the Middle East. (You'll note where sirwa69 lives).
But as mentioned by Sonic Bam, the email states "need" as opposed to must or shall.
So, with all the UK government problems dominating the press this could be "a good time to release bad news"
Whilst the company may not be able to enforce compulsory unpaid leave in Europe, they are more cavalier in places like Africa, Middle East and Far East.
I have also heard about the 2 weeks unpaid leave for customer service staff in the Middle East. (You'll note where sirwa69 lives).
But as mentioned by Sonic Bam, the email states "need" as opposed to must or shall.
So, with all the UK government problems dominating the press this could be "a good time to release bad news"
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Last in , first out......Whats fair about that?...
CX has just offered voluntary unpaid leave from 1 week to 4 depending on your grade within the company, the more you earn the more you give back.