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Old 8th Mar 2009, 08:01
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Love the engine noise

As a passenger only,I love the noise of the engines as they spool up for take off run.

Just flown Jet2 LBA-SSH on the winglet fitted 757 and with a full load it was airborne from 32 before the tunnel,for those that know the airport.Impressive.
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Old 8th Mar 2009, 16:07
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Flew on a wingletted 757 to KEF last year and it went like sh*t off a shovel from GLA's runway - stops in good time to!
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Good to read that the 757 has so many fans. My first ever flight was on G-MONB from MAN to Athens in July '85. Wonder where she is now ?

Only last May, I had the pleasure of taking a 757 on a US domestic between Philly and Charlotte. Of the five different sectors flown on my trip (also used A330's, CR7's and EMB 190's), this was the best flight - despite turbulent, thundery conditions.
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I think NB only left the other week to Fedex. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Old 8th Mar 2009, 17:05
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ust beats me why Boeing shut the 757 line
Those who wanted them had them new and the second hand market was pretty active. There was no sales left in the new build B757. Same with the new build B747-400 recently too. Everything has it's time.
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Old 8th Mar 2009, 18:34
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G-MONB is in the breakers yard at Kemble.
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757...that's the one I always dreamt to fly...
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Old 8th Mar 2009, 20:55
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Incorrect, V800.

G-MONB is in Victorville, California (along with G-MONE) awaiting conversion to freighter for FEDEX.
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Old 8th Mar 2009, 21:23
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G-MONB has gone to FEDEX. For years it was (and possibly still is) the high time 757.

In 1995 I did a Gatwick-Athens-Gatwick round trip in the cockpit of this machine with a friend as FO on a glorious October Sunday. There was a computer installed behind the right hand seat which was Boeing's property and was monitoring wing box stresses. The TCAS packed up over Macedonia, just when we needed it most, but refused to misbehave when looked at on arrival at Athens. Packed up again on the return trip over Luxembourg.

First flew on a 757 on a LHR-MAN shuttle back up in the early 1980s when BA had just a couple of aircraft. Leaving sometime after 22.00 on a Friday night with just 25 on board and no SID restriction at that time of night, the performance was spectacular to say the least - especially compared to the usual Trident departure on the same route - lightly loaded or not!
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Old 8th Mar 2009, 21:38
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Is she still the most fuel efficient single isle airliner in the sky?

If so, those winglets must make her super lean!
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Old 8th Mar 2009, 23:48
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Is she still the most fuel efficient single isle airliner in the sky?
I'd doubt that it is more efficient than the A321 - newer engines, smaller wing, lower weight per seat, etc.
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Old 9th Mar 2009, 00:04
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For those airlines in need of large capacity, the A321 and 737-900ER have lower trip cost, albeit with slightly fewer seats and less range.
Its a quote from Wikipedia (I know!) but it probably is true. I would however, ask every airline that has operated both the 757 and 321 and I would be surprised if there were more than 10 who said they preferred the latter.

Also, the two mentioned above wouldn't have the legs for TATL to central Europe and probably even Britain so it they are out of the question for AA, DL and CO who currently serve many secondary cities from their respective hubs on the east coast.

I assume most of you will agree, bar it's efficiency (which is still fantastic seeing as when it was first introduced), the 757 was ahead of it's time and I feel the 787 pays tribute to the success of the 757.
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Old 9th Mar 2009, 11:33
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757
Great aeroplane sure but an absolute barsteward to follow. Made me sit up a bit quickly a few times.
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Old 9th Mar 2009, 13:34
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While many may like the 757, it's probably not correct to say it made Boeing what it is Today.

The sucussful 727 was what really kept Boeing going until the 737 and 747 started to make money.

Of all the Boeing Commercial Jets, the 757 will probably have the most disappointing sales record when you factor in the size of industry at the time it was for sale in.
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Old 9th Mar 2009, 14:31
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We have not mentioned once that it MADE Boeing or that it was one of the most successful sales wise but it sure is one of the aircraft Boeing can be most proud of.
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 14:28
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The 757 is certainly an impressive machine liked by many (including myself!) for the reasons already given.

However, it’s easy to forget that the design is now 30+ years old and there are several technical limitations that have been improved on in newer aircraft. For instance, the Pneumatic systems have no built in test equipment which makes diagnosing problems a nightmare! I'm sure there are plenty of Engineers who have struggled to change some of the thoughtfully located pneumatic components in the pylons of 757's only to find the defect still exists!!

Obviously, the efficiency of newer designs has also contributed to the demise of the 757. For instance, a UK operator flies 737-800's with 189 pax (vs 235 on a 757) When you factor in the reduced operating costs and lower number of Cabin crew required, the bean counters like 737-800’s!!
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 22:52
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So why do Jet2 prefere and operate the 757, rather than the 737-800.
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 23:42
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Becasue an old B757 fleet is more in keeping with an ancient fleet of B737-300s than a new fleet of B737s?
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 23:56
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The 757 is more flexible than the 737-800 and much cheaper to buy.

They have lower overheads by owning the a/c and can sit it on the ground for a much smaller cost than Ryanair and easyJet who lease theirs. By doing this it offers them much more flexibility and they can fly charters (MOD) more easily also.

Add to that the better range of the 757 (JFK) then it looks more like a better buy for the time being.
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 23:58
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Pilot friend said that 757 power was like putting a Ferrari engine in an Austin Mini. Now there's a thought.....hmmmm.

Love the 757!!!
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