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Old 31st Dec 2016, 22:44
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Imagine - flights direct from your own doorstep into the general locality of New York, New England, Toronto, Chicago, Florida, West Coast ... where people are largely going, without having the hassle of inflated fares and an intermediate stop in Heathrow, Amsterdam, Dublin, wherever - or in an over-congested US hub. Long overdue. ��
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Old 31st Dec 2016, 22:56
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Obivously wasn't attractive enough for Newcastle, united came and left.
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Old 31st Dec 2016, 23:13
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yes use it or lose it. They didnt and they lost it.
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Old 31st Dec 2016, 23:15
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That's a bit of an obivous one though, the route clearly failed due to the lack of market, nobody can be blaimed for that.
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 01:31
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So what do people think 2017 will bring for Newcastle airport?

Any new airlines?
Expansion of existing airlines at Newcastle?
Or a drop in airlines and passengers due to Brexit and Scottish APD reduction.
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 08:59
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Europe flights no change and Long haul being squeezed by EDI and MAN so probably backwards
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 10:00
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Well, Long haul is only EK and TOM - can't see any change from EK unless they seriously implode, and if anything isn't TOM long haul slightly up for 2017?

Shorthaul - steady expansion from RYR? Looking at recent stats, they seem to be expanding the market rather than splitting it.

No change elsewhere - interesting to see what happens with DUS (i.e. impact of moving up to 319/320, and the various moves within the LH empire) and how VY get on.
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 12:19
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2017.....

More new routes and increases from Ryanair

Charters may see slight increases possible new routes

SN to be branded Eurowings this year so maybe Airbus aircraft used later?

Maybe a new airline but who??
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 12:21
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Can't see the airport wanting DY for New York.

The main reason airport didn't work with Ryanair before now was it didn't want routes to secondary airports miles away from city centres
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 13:28
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Can't see the airport wanting DY for New York.
 The main reason airport didn't work with Ryanair before now was it didn't want routes to secondary airports miles away from city centres
Such policies are long outdated and any airport authority that retains such blind faith in legacy Hub and Spoke deserves to falter.

Just look at Manchester around 2006 up to the global crash and the BA pull out traffic fell from over 21 million right down to 17 million.

Sustained growth has come from embracing this sector.

You need RYR/EZY and LS -they increase footfall immensely, oh and bring in customers that actually spend money in the retail and catering establishments

(Your legacy connector with a business ticket and lounge access doesn't !)
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 13:36
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Don't think NCL has been mentioned by DY.

Also worth noting that NCL was an early EZY base as well as having a significant LS presence and retaining the majority of its charter market, so I don't think they can be accused of ignoring LCC's.

The airport have also managed to retain their legacy Hub and Spoke access - important to a regional which has a peripheral position.
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 14:24
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Other than BMI maybe pushing the Stavanger route to Bergen and maybe a link to Oslo from SAS or maybe Norwegian, it looks like Ryanair continuing expansion with Easyjet trying more routes. Jet 2 seems to have really slowed down on new routes.

Longhaul is clearly in the hands of Thomson now
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 19:09
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Whats your thoughts Thomas Cook?

Recon they will ever give us some summer long haulers for a start?

Also what will happen if they dont give us back the sharm route will TCX give us something different?
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 21:38
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TCX long haul is now concentrated in just a few airports i:e MAN/LGW/STN and GLA with the
main base being MAN with 6 or 7 A330 next year so probably unlikely NCL
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 22:09
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It's a shame TCX don't do a summer SFB.
Good brand and I'm sure they could fill a 767/330 weekly.

What about Cape Verde could that work from ncl on a 738/321??
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 22:33
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TCX don`t fly to SFB as they use MCO
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 22:46
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I see, regarding Jet2, were rumoured to have 8 based this summer.

When is EK's anniversary as well, forgotten what it was celebrating as well!
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 08:18
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Ryanair adding capacity to some routes during peak summer months July/August.


Faro 4 x weekly up to 5 x weekly (August)

I believe more is expected either for summer 17 or winter 17/18.
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 08:22
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Emirates Anniversary is 1st September. 1st September the first daily flight and will be it's 10th anniversary in September 2017.


I believe we're still 7 based for Jet2 however could be wrong or may change.
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 10:49
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We will have 2 new ones by Feb, all the QCs will go and we will have 4 x 800s and 3 x 300s.
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