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[ash666]

No problems for me

[Lancelot37]

No problem for me.

[fl dutchman]

Onur Air/Hollidays4U

I think they were originally going to do quite a lot of flights from NCL this summer but in reality I understand the actual number of flights opperating with OHY has been 3/4 per week, with the ones due to commence at the end of July not starting when scheduled.

Perhaps someone can confirm or otherwise that this is the case as my info may not be accurate.

I think H4U took seats on some of the TCX flights as well as OHY.

Its a great shame another holiday company has gone down and a great shame for all the passengers who will not get the holiday as booked.

Lets hope they can re book with another opperator as it seems that plenty capacity is still available elsewhere.

[P330]

Cityjet

Apologies if this has been mentioned before, but I'm hearing that Cityjet will be running the Air France route franchise from winter 11/12. This means Newcastle will see a 3 class service using the Avros, as opposed to Britair CRJs. I believe this is also a capacity increase.

[Delta 8]

Anything interesting happening at Newcastle? Nothing much said on here for a while.

Any rumours about EZY or LS for next year?

[Lancelot37]

Anyone heard when Emirates are going to swop to the 777 instead of the A330-200? It was proposed some months ago.

[BAladdy]

Apologies if this has been mentioned before, but I'm hearing that Cityjet will be running the Air France route franchise from winter 11/12. This means Newcastle will see a 3 class service using the Avros, as opposed to Britair CRJs. I believe this is also a capacity increase.

Ctyjet's RJ85's can carry up to 95 pax compared to 70 on Brit Airs CRJ700.

WX's Business Cabin is configured with 2 seats on each side. Apart from row 1 where there is only 1 seat. Economy is configured with 3 seats on each side.

From personal experience the RJ85 is a very cramped aircraft. Seat pitch throughout is max 30' .The CRJ700 is far more comfortable and has a seat pitch of 32'

[GrahamK]

No updates on the Emirates other than that they seem to have increased their ground time in Newcastle from 1hr 35 to 1hr 50 mins. Still scheduled as an A332 well into next year at least, and it wouldnt surprise me if NCL was the last A330 destination for the airline. Perhaps moving to the A350 when it arrives rather than the B777.

[GrahamK]

Provisional stats for July now out:

Gatwick +4%
Heathrow -4%
Brussels +44%
Paris CDG -6%
Dusseldorf +6% (possibility of a 3rd daily service?)
Dublin +14%
Amsterdam +6%
Oslo Rygge +9%
Bergen +27%
Stavanger +20%
Dubai +3% (90% load based on A332HD used on all flights - possibly the busiest month ever for the route?)


Overall, the airport seen a decline of passengers of 0.5%, so maybe things are starting to level out?

[neil_2008]

EZY Base

I notice from this post we are now the smallest EZY base:

http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...ml#post6647438

[CentreFix25]

I don't imagine for a second they are going anywhere as i'm sure they've whittled their flying program down to the most lucrative of routes. If they did go i'm sure they wouldn't be missed by the travelling public, most routes are already shared with other carriers and the ones that aren't would be snapped up by LS.

[debbie1991]

Were the same size as SEN. Although the yields from SEN will no doubt be better than NCL. It does show that EZY are committed to three craft bases. Mind saying that anything is possible. Certainly until next summer were a three craft base. After that who knows. Stay the same. Close. Or grow. I don't think it would work quite the same if we went to two or one craft.

[neil_2008]

I agree I don't think they'll go anywhere for now but I disagree that they won't be missed. NCL is one of the most expensive regional airports to fly from with carriers expecting far higher cost per seat fares than from other regionals, EZY although is cashing in on this, its to a far lesser extent than LS. Compare LS fares from Leeds or Manchester to basic med / European routes against those offered by the same carrier from NCL, there is a massive price difference.

This is not a case of yeilds / seats sold, the launch prices are totally different too with far less true low cost seats available from the outset from NCL.

[easy6826]

As an ex Cabin Crew member for EZY based at East Midlands, when we got told the base was closing in January 2010, this was because apparently a 3 aircraft base was simply not financially viable. Trust me, as I worked for EZY for 8 years, if they do not expand a base, especially a 3 aircraft base, sooner or later they will look at the figures and see that the three aircraft can be better utilised elsewhere and they WILL move out. The same happened to DTM in 2009, a year before they closed EMA.

[skyman771]

Were the same size as SEN. Although the yields from SEN will no doubt be better than NCL.

Any comparison or relevence to NCL doubtful, SEN / EZY can't fail in short term, certain event named "London Olympics"

[cjags]

Don't write EZY off at NCL just yet. Apparently it is performing significantly better with 3 aircraft, compared to many of EZYs other bases.

Edit: Shocking literacy skills

[CentreFix25]

I agree I don't think they'll go anywhere for now but I disagree that they won't be missed. NCL is one of the most expensive regional airports to fly from with carriers expecting far higher cost per seat fares than from other regionals, EZY although is cashing in on this, its to a far lesser extent than LS. Compare LS fares from Leeds or Manchester to basic med / European routes against those offered by the same carrier from NCL, there is a massive price difference.

This is not a case of yeilds / seats sold, the launch prices are totally different too with far less true low cost seats available from the outset from NCL.

I don't quite grasp this posting, you might need to simplify it for me from a travelling publics point of view when all i'm interest in is flying from NCL at the cheapest price. On the route I've flown every year (from NCL) for the last 9 years LS were the cheapest (v EZY).

[debbie1991]

^ But LS have only operated from NCL since 2005/six years. So how can this be true?

[neil_2008]

In simple terms the point I am making is that it is typically cheaper to fly from another regional airport to a given destination than it is to fly from NCL. Costs per seat are higher from NCL than from other comparable regional airports.

Also in my experience EZY are in general cheaper than LS, although on certain dates I'm sure we could find examples both proving and disproving the point.

[CentreFix25]

But LS have only operated from NCL since 2005/six years. So how can this be true?

Badly worded - LS were cheapest this year.

In simple terms the point I am making is that it is typically cheaper to fly from another regional airport...

I don't know how typical I am as flying public, but I dont look at fares from other airports. My usual route is NCL-PMI and I look to compare prices on carriers flying that route, I don't look for alternatives to NCL. If EZY stopped I would compare LS with TCX and TOM and go for the cheapest, TOM were the cheapest in 2009, EZY last year and LS this year. So by that logic and as long as there was competition on the route I wouldn't miss EZY.