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Does anyone have further information about a new start-up for Summer 2009 called Kiss Air? Rumoured to be flying some 737-800s from Gatwick and Manchester and being set up by some ex-XL people, but don't know more than that. Just wondering if anyone knows proposed start dates, likelihood of it happening and how many aircraft they are expecting to have.
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mmm seems interesting.....
its going to be very hard work for a startup to gain ground in the current climate, plus with the fuel prices etc... yadayadayada.
Hopefully we'll hear more from Kiss Air in the not too distant future,
thanks for the heads up...
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its going to be very hard work for a startup to gain ground in the current climate, plus with the fuel prices etc... yadayadayada.
Hopefully we'll hear more from Kiss Air in the not too distant future,
thanks for the heads up...
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And yet it is forecast that EZY and RYN could record record profits next year as the fuel prices may dip to $100 a barrel.
Is this so called fuel problem just clearing out the weaklings?
If it is true. Good luck to them!
Is this so called fuel problem just clearing out the weaklings?
If it is true. Good luck to them!
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I very much doubt it is anything to do with the earlier proposed Kiss incarnation...can you honestly see anyone starting a new full service carrier at LHR right now?!
Rumour has it that this is a two B737 charter operation (one LGW and one MAN) for start Summer 2009...bear in mind that for such ops within Europe, you could easily park such an operation on an existing AOC of any EU member state airline, so any plan could easily be well advanced without any of the 'traditional' signs of a new operator starting (filing of application with CAA etc)
Rumour has it that this is a two B737 charter operation (one LGW and one MAN) for start Summer 2009...bear in mind that for such ops within Europe, you could easily park such an operation on an existing AOC of any EU member state airline, so any plan could easily be well advanced without any of the 'traditional' signs of a new operator starting (filing of application with CAA etc)
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for some-one who spent their time helping to set-up airlines across the region, he should be the first to know that now is not a good time... not ideal to launch an airline...
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Thanks - there doesn't seem to be any form of application in with the CAA for an AOC but I guess there's still time to do that for a start-up next Spring if they wanted to. Just intrigued to see how this goes. If it is indeed XL people as I was told, it is odd that this airline seems to be trying to win business from tour operators when XL is still going! No honour amongst those of a similar ilk, is there....
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If this is indeed a new airline set up by XL’s management, then it just shows how much confidence they have in their current airline !!??
According to the Travel Trade Gazette, XL had an operating loss of almost £24 million last year. It now transpires that Barclays have pulled XL’s fuel hedge finance. Couple that with the news that all of XL winter programme to the Carribean has been cancelled - it make you wonder what these “gentlemen” have in store for XL Airways ?? Sounds like a case of “raise the drawbridge – I’m in !”
Excel / XL were set up to cater for the independent travel trade and the model worked a treat. But now we have the likes of Easyjet and Ryanair selling seats at half of XL’s prices.
Shrewd business men know when to exit – hence Kiss Air
And no - it won't be a UK AOC
According to the Travel Trade Gazette, XL had an operating loss of almost £24 million last year. It now transpires that Barclays have pulled XL’s fuel hedge finance. Couple that with the news that all of XL winter programme to the Carribean has been cancelled - it make you wonder what these “gentlemen” have in store for XL Airways ?? Sounds like a case of “raise the drawbridge – I’m in !”
Excel / XL were set up to cater for the independent travel trade and the model worked a treat. But now we have the likes of Easyjet and Ryanair selling seats at half of XL’s prices.
Shrewd business men know when to exit – hence Kiss Air
And no - it won't be a UK AOC
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its going to be very hard work for a startup to gain ground in the current climate, plus with the fuel prices etc... yadayadayada.
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It's not as bad as 'The Forum' is making out.
Alot of the talk is just 'Spin'
its going to be very hard work for a startup to gain ground in the current climate, plus with the fuel prices etc... yadayadayada.
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It's not as bad as 'The Forum' is making out.
Alot of the talk is just 'Spin'
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It's not as bad as 'The Forum' is making out.
Alot of the talk is just 'Spin'
Alot of the talk is just 'Spin'
Back to the thread. Are we talking about Viking AOC and if so, how will they get the rights to fly to non-EU places from the UK?
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Am told that it is indeed the Viking AOC with some of the former XL 737-800s and a lot of former XL people. Launch supposedly in the next two weeks.
The tone of the weekend press about XL means that they will have a field day with this one when it gets picked up.
The tone of the weekend press about XL means that they will have a field day with this one when it gets picked up.
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Well, good luck to them if is becomes a success, im currently leaving the airline industry, simply becasue im moving, but was hoping to get back into the environment once im settled which i very much doubt now with the current climate, so best of luck guys! i shall keep my eyes and ears open!
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Kiss
Kiss Flights is a dynamic young travel company offering an exciting programme of daily flights starting in summer 2009 to eleven of the most beautiful destinations in Europe from both Gatwick and Manchester Airports. The routes range from 7 wonderful Greek islands to Dalaman in Turkey. We are also offering the two best resorts in Egypt's Red Sea; Sharm el Sheikh and Hurghada with their large range of holiday activities including some of the best diving and windsurfing in the world for you to enjoy! We also offer flights to the popular Canary island of Lanzarote which offers year round sunshine and some of the best holiday beaches in Europe. We’ve chosen these popular destinations in Egypt the Canary Islands and Eastern Mediterranean to ensure you, our customers have the most enjoyable holidays possible.
Delivering a safe, reliable and comfortable service to our customers is a key priority, and for peace of mind, we are fully ATOL bonded. Most flights will be on new Boeing 737-800s offering a high level of comfort.
The Kiss team have many years of outstanding experience in the travel industry, up-to-the-minute market knowledge and quite simply, a passion for travel!
We are here to serve you.
So who's behind this "new" venture?
Delivering a safe, reliable and comfortable service to our customers is a key priority, and for peace of mind, we are fully ATOL bonded. Most flights will be on new Boeing 737-800s offering a high level of comfort.
The Kiss team have many years of outstanding experience in the travel industry, up-to-the-minute market knowledge and quite simply, a passion for travel!
We are here to serve you.
So who's behind this "new" venture?