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Old 16th Sep 2008, 15:59
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Totally unbelievable!!! - the timings classic!.
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Old 16th Sep 2008, 16:08
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KISS

These are Cra-zy, Cra-zy, Cra-zy, Cra-zy flights...
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Old 16th Sep 2008, 16:09
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Would this be the same Kiss Air there is already a thread about and rumoured to be being set up by ex XL people?
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Viking Airlines is a new airline which started operations in May 2003 operating charter flights on behalf of a number of Tour Operators in the Mediterranean. In summer 2009 Boeing 737-800s will be added to the fleet, and the airline is going to fly from London Gatwick and Manchester to 11 beautiful destinations in the Mediterranean, Canary Islands and Egypt.
Flights operated by Viking with a couple of -800s (branded 'Kiss') by the looks of it.
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Old 16th Sep 2008, 16:14
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Good Luck to them i say!
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Well Well Well,

Site looks very similar as the old XL one, i reckon it must be the guys who were behind Freedom Flights. As an agent, freedom flights are something similar is very much needed in the UK Leisure market, they will start with the usual gatwick and macnhester routes then will expand from there i reckon. Glad to see them back, they were great at what they did, lets just hope that Viking continue who will be operating the flights.

Good Luck Kiss Guys and Girls, glad someone will be back in the market to serve the independant agents, very much needed than the rip off big two.

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I also as an Independant Travel Agent am really please - I will be signing up tomorrow. Its good news for all the small tour ops who relied on the XL flights like Mark Warner.
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Old 16th Sep 2008, 17:28
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Anyone know who the directors are?
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Old 16th Sep 2008, 17:56
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The Kiss team have many years of outstanding experience in the travel industry, up-to-the-minute market knowledge
Indisputably true. If what I am told is correct, this is the former XL people who were planning this set-up before XL ceased. Many years of outstanding experience and up-to-the-minute market knowledge which could not possibly have been matched by anyone else! How on earth are they allowed to get away with it so quickly?
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Old 16th Sep 2008, 18:15
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Angry Muppet travel agents

"Good Luck Kiss Guys and Girls, glad someone will be back in the market to serve the independant agents, very much needed than the rip off big two."

"I also as an Independant Travel Agent am really please - I will be signing up tomorrow. Its good news for all the small tour ops who relied on the XL flights like Mark Warner."

What the hell is the matter with you 2? This company has just stranded thousands of people across the world due to mis-management and you're running to help the same people do it again!!!

You sum up everything that is wrong with the travel trade. Thank god for the internet so I can avoid having to use idiots like you 2.
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Old 16th Sep 2008, 18:16
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groundhog day

Ambassador=>Air Ops=>Peach=>Caledonian=>Sabre=>Excel=>XL=>Kiss

this is classic PW Modus Operandi

start something, trade on the edge, build it up, try and smarten it up, find sugar daddy, continue to polish the particular turd till you either get out or as in the recent case it goes Tits Up then start again.

Whatever it might say on the outside, it's rotten to the core.

Kiss flights/airways has been registered as a company by an associate of PW.

The commercial director of freedom flights was 'sent' there a while ago

I'm guessing the commercial sales vehicle will be one of PW's other side companies, probably Meridian, run by his mate, who employed the old XL accounts guy recently.

it stinks, stinks, stinks, and if he ever has the neck to come out and front this up he could get lynched by the media.

to those who have lost their jobs who will not get into the new venture because they are not part of the same old inner circle who sold themselves to the devil years ago - you have my utmost sympathy.

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Old 16th Sep 2008, 18:22
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There's nothing wrong with the timing of this.

It stands as good a chance as any of success, and it won't have been exposed to the crap some of their soon-to-be peers have been over the past 18 months.

Good luck. Hope it works out. No reason why it shouldn't, despite what those who get their business acumen from ITN and the markets page of The Sun might think.
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Old 16th Sep 2008, 18:22
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Im just expressing that the travel industry needs a independent charter airline. We cannot just survive with the big boys (TOM/TCX), just a few years ago we had Scandic, XL, Flying Colours, Caledonian etc. I agree though, it need to be well run to survive in this climate.
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Old 16th Sep 2008, 20:27
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Air Ops=>Peach=>Caledonian=>Sabre=>Excel=>XL=>Kiss
You missed out Ambassador at the start of that list.

I feel desperately sorry for the people who have lost their jobs from XL at the hands of this mob. Surely the travel industry must be able to see through this charade?
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Old 16th Sep 2008, 20:59
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H/o 7th Floor Norfolk House Lgw

Vkg Director Is Jw Brother Of Pw............
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Old 16th Sep 2008, 21:10
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I'm guessing the commercial sales vehicle will be one of PW's other side companies, probably Meridian, run by his mate, who employed the old XL accounts guy recently.
Make of this what you will, but guess who holds the ATOL (9853)...

Company Name:
Meridian Aviation UK Ltd
ATOL Number: 9853 Address:






Trading Names:
7th floor
Norfolk House
South Terminal
London Gatwick Airport
GATWICK, W Sussex,
RH6 0NN

Kiss Flights

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Old 16th Sep 2008, 21:13
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some of you seen to talk as if you've seen a website online?if so, can someone tell me it.

thankyou

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Old 16th Sep 2008, 21:17
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you cant post on here but its clear and ends in .com iso co.uk !!!
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Old 16th Sep 2008, 21:33
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Albert - thanks forgot "AMY" and have updated my list

another interesting Meridian Aviation anecdote, its run by PW's mate, AC, who also got all the XL Air Malta business via his door, and its just employed the wife of one of the XL directors. Its also been hoovering up former XL flights for some of the independent tour operators

will all the armchair numpties stop saying this is good news, you dont know what it means to be shafted by this shower
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Old 17th Sep 2008, 09:51
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How many of those aircraft brought in to repat a few thousand of the stranded XL passengers were brokered by Meridian?
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