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I owe you an apology as I misread your first post, reading 737 rather than 733. I'm not sure if all the 733s are going but certainly the mix will be 738 heavy at MAN.
Some of the crews coming onto the 73 are coming off the Airbus and some from the 756. The way it works is that you bid for a base/rank/type mix, the base being the first bit looked at so it doesn't neccessarily follow that all the Airbus guys will go on the 73 because they may have bid for a base that needs 756 guys in that rank. I think the majority will though because the 756 fleet is shrinking and the 73 growing (or perhaps shrinking less fast!). It is all part of the long term gear up to become a 737 / 787 airline, if the Tupperware Jet ever gets going that is. Down about 10 airframes by this time next year from May this year as "synergies" following the merger are realised and a slight drop in Long Haul -v- a slight rise in Mid Haul.
The first of the latest batch of 73 transition courses starts next week. More 73s are due next year (TBC) but they will be replacement airframes rather than growing the fleet. The 735s are still on the books but mothballed, some of the 733s are getting tired (as am I getting tired of flying them - sheds). The 738 is the way ahead. A very nice aeroplane to fly.
No real changes at MAN regarding routes AFAIAA
I owe you an apology as I misread your first post, reading 737 rather than 733. I'm not sure if all the 733s are going but certainly the mix will be 738 heavy at MAN.
Some of the crews coming onto the 73 are coming off the Airbus and some from the 756. The way it works is that you bid for a base/rank/type mix, the base being the first bit looked at so it doesn't neccessarily follow that all the Airbus guys will go on the 73 because they may have bid for a base that needs 756 guys in that rank. I think the majority will though because the 756 fleet is shrinking and the 73 growing (or perhaps shrinking less fast!). It is all part of the long term gear up to become a 737 / 787 airline, if the Tupperware Jet ever gets going that is. Down about 10 airframes by this time next year from May this year as "synergies" following the merger are realised and a slight drop in Long Haul -v- a slight rise in Mid Haul.
The first of the latest batch of 73 transition courses starts next week. More 73s are due next year (TBC) but they will be replacement airframes rather than growing the fleet. The 735s are still on the books but mothballed, some of the 733s are getting tired (as am I getting tired of flying them - sheds). The 738 is the way ahead. A very nice aeroplane to fly.
No real changes at MAN regarding routes AFAIAA
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thankyou for the detailed reply.
Seems like a complicated time for the crews, it looks like some pilots could be downsizing their type for a specific base. might see some testing times as some might go straight for the widebody bases.....we'll see.
think we might see some A320 guys who are wanting to stay on type go over to monrch or even easyjet? i know TOM have better T's & C's but....
i am a lover of the 733, glad theyre replacing them with newer frames. G-THOK springs to mind......
its actually ben a pritty bad day for you guys, a 767-200 turned back, plus a 737-800 had a lightening strike early this morning, only going out at 7pm tonight, very unfortunate...
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G-STAW
Seems like a complicated time for the crews, it looks like some pilots could be downsizing their type for a specific base. might see some testing times as some might go straight for the widebody bases.....we'll see.
think we might see some A320 guys who are wanting to stay on type go over to monrch or even easyjet? i know TOM have better T's & C's but....
i am a lover of the 733, glad theyre replacing them with newer frames. G-THOK springs to mind......
its actually ben a pritty bad day for you guys, a 767-200 turned back, plus a 737-800 had a lightening strike early this morning, only going out at 7pm tonight, very unfortunate...
regards,
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Yeah, looks like a busy winter for the 73 Training Dept! About 100 Type Conversions to do. The Trg Head Shed seem to have a workable plan though. Whether that survives contact with Rostering remains to be seen. A few of the younger guys are sniffing around other airlines, don't really know about the Airbus people as I rarely come into contact with them. Also, about 80 odd are leaving on a Voluntary Redundancy scheme - no idea of the demographic of that.
Bad days happen. I had no idea as I was head down at home writing 737 course material! The good thing is that when it goes belly up the bods in LTN really get a grip.
You seem well informed? You Blue or Pink (in which case I've been wasting my time as you will know all this anyway!!!)
Bad days happen. I had no idea as I was head down at home writing 737 course material! The good thing is that when it goes belly up the bods in LTN really get a grip.
You seem well informed? You Blue or Pink (in which case I've been wasting my time as you will know all this anyway!!!)
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Yeah, looks like a busy winter for the 73 Training Dept! About 100 Type Conversions to do. The Trg Head Shed seem to have a workable plan though. Whether that survives contact with Rostering remains to be seen. A few of the younger guys are sniffing around other airlines, don't really know about the Airbus people as I rarely come into contact with them. Also, about 80 odd are leaving on a Voluntary Redundancy scheme - no idea of the demographic of that.
Bad days happen. I had no idea as I was head down at home writing 737 course material! The good thing is that when it goes belly up the bods in LTN really get a grip.
You seem well informed? You Blue or Pink (in which case I've been wasting my time as you will know all this anyway!!!)
Bad days happen. I had no idea as I was head down at home writing 737 course material! The good thing is that when it goes belly up the bods in LTN really get a grip.
You seem well informed? You Blue or Pink (in which case I've been wasting my time as you will know all this anyway!!!)
I work for servisair ops, so get daily happening, i know a few reps so im both blue and pink, not really baised.start my PPL/CPL soon im also studying the 737NG so im in contact with a few FO's at TOM. trying to get into ops with TOM/FCA but no luck atm.....
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I understand from the local Granada news last night that Servisair are to make 180-200 people compulsorily redundant at MAN shortly.
So I hope you will be OK G-STAW
Looks like it is going to be a tough old winter out there.
Suzeman
So I hope you will be OK G-STAW
Looks like it is going to be a tough old winter out there.
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Flybe talking about expansion with plans to restore routes to Madrid and Lyon as well as starting new routes to Amsterdam, Hamburg and Stuttgart.
No mention of timescale.
see Crain's Manchester Business
No mention of timescale.
see Crain's Manchester Business
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Does anyone know what is happening to the TCX Cayo Coco flight? I work in Cyprus and have heard a rumour the flight is coming here, which I think is very strange. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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If its the MAN - CCC flight today, I saw the crew and the're off to CCC as planned. Departs around now. I wished them the best as I'm just back from the entrails of Ike! Hope they take their wellies...
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I understand from the local Granada news last night that Servisair are to make 180-200 people compulsorily redundant at MAN shortly.
So I hope you will be OK G-STAW
Looks like it is going to be a tough old winter out there.
Suzeman
XL's position isnt helping the situation, the rep said their winter shedule doesnt go much futher than TFS & PMI....
and then theres Futura going bust, the list goes on.....BTW iberworld are taking over futura routes v.soon.
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I used to travel through MAN airport T1 every week to work in Hamburg, but have not been there since 31st July of this year. Can anyone tell me if all of the new shops, cafe's etc have opened now and is the make over complete? I will be there on Sunday and back on Friday.
And anything on T2? I heard a while ago that work had startedon the new security area and was set to finish later in the year and someone also told me about the extension of T3 beginning a few weeks ago.
Hope someone can provide me with some info.
Thanks, Mat.
And anything on T2? I heard a while ago that work had startedon the new security area and was set to finish later in the year and someone also told me about the extension of T3 beginning a few weeks ago.
Hope someone can provide me with some info.
Thanks, Mat.
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All 3 terminals now have their new security points open and running. Shops are appearing gradually. I believe T1 will be done by Christmas, T2 by Easter next year and T3 is ongoing.
T3 apron extension is at the ground works stage by the looks of it.
All 3 terminals now have their new security points open and running. Shops are appearing gradually. I believe T1 will be done by Christmas, T2 by Easter next year and T3 is ongoing.
T3 apron extension is at the ground works stage by the looks of it.
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Probably weather avoidance. Tue evening was interesting with both AFR1168 and BMA4QA, from the south, passing through centreline around 7 DME and then right circuit to establish at approx 10 DME