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The actual figures for April - September per the CAA are: -
September..7512...94 rotations = 80 pax per flight 54% load factor
August.......9812...98 rotations = 100 pax per flight 67% load factor
July...........9644..100 rotations = 96 pax per flight 65% load factor
June..........9227..140 rotations = 66 pax per flight 47% load factor
May...........6842..130 rotations = 53 pax per flight 35% load factor
April...........5994..102 rotations = 59 pax per flight 39% load factor
Total........49031..664 rotations = 74 pax per flight 50% load factor
*March 882 passenger and provisional figures for October 7983
Load factor based on a 149 seat Boeing 733
Passenger figure Source: CAA
Rotation figures: CAA Punctuality Statistics
Pete
September..7512...94 rotations = 80 pax per flight 54% load factor
August.......9812...98 rotations = 100 pax per flight 67% load factor
July...........9644..100 rotations = 96 pax per flight 65% load factor
June..........9227..140 rotations = 66 pax per flight 47% load factor
May...........6842..130 rotations = 53 pax per flight 35% load factor
April...........5994..102 rotations = 59 pax per flight 39% load factor
Total........49031..664 rotations = 74 pax per flight 50% load factor
*March 882 passenger and provisional figures for October 7983
Load factor based on a 149 seat Boeing 733
Passenger figure Source: CAA
Rotation figures: CAA Punctuality Statistics
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Given Olton Pete's figures (which appear to be a little adrift of the press release's 60k), a subsidy from the airport would be needed.
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The rolling trend would suggest that around 100k+ per year is realistic on this route and whilst this is well down on what FR achieved i think baby will be more than happy with this number.
AMS is bound to take time to build given the limited spend on marketing at AMS, it will be very interesting to see the take up of the ski routes when GVA kicks off in a few weeks time, the Alps need a serious dump of snow after a very warm November accross much of Western Europe.
AMS is bound to take time to build given the limited spend on marketing at AMS, it will be very interesting to see the take up of the ski routes when GVA kicks off in a few weeks time, the Alps need a serious dump of snow after a very warm November accross much of Western Europe.
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The figures are definately being manipulated by bmi management as no dent has been made to easyJet loads at Bfs..The only carrier who has lost really is bmi mainline by up to 25 percent,as most of the pax they have lost are travelling with the baby so no gain at Bhd as per pax figures.As for Ams,my menzies contacts are saying loads are dismal to say the lease and wont be sustainable throughout the winter.Summer sun sun routes are also way behind targets set by revenue management .Again stupid decisions by bmi senior management who have always ignored the competition thinking their way is superior and people will book.Thats why they are in the state they are are in.
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Ah the "Menzies Contacts" school of yield management
Its the same team of bmibaby knockers who over the last two years have said variously that it would be bust by now, that STN would be pulled in months that baby would be out of BHD by the end of Summer.
Well yes STN is not full every flight, but a lot of them are, AMS is slow, but forward booking on a route that's been going for just 4 weeks are trending in the right direction and Summer booking are in line with what is happening to all airlines in the UK just now ie people are delaying making booking because of concerns over their future (not baby's) and a general lack of confidence. Look at TCX
If baby is having no effect on Easy then great, it means between the airlines there growing the routes and why are you worried either way.
With regards to bmi LHR from BHD is anyone surprised? if you want to be in central London early the quickest route from Belfast is bmibaby, Central London by just a few minutes past 9am is my record
Its the same team of bmibaby knockers who over the last two years have said variously that it would be bust by now, that STN would be pulled in months that baby would be out of BHD by the end of Summer.
Well yes STN is not full every flight, but a lot of them are, AMS is slow, but forward booking on a route that's been going for just 4 weeks are trending in the right direction and Summer booking are in line with what is happening to all airlines in the UK just now ie people are delaying making booking because of concerns over their future (not baby's) and a general lack of confidence. Look at TCX
If baby is having no effect on Easy then great, it means between the airlines there growing the routes and why are you worried either way.
With regards to bmi LHR from BHD is anyone surprised? if you want to be in central London early the quickest route from Belfast is bmibaby, Central London by just a few minutes past 9am is my record
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Well yes STN is not full every flight, but a lot of them are, AMS is slow, but forward booking on a route that's been going for just 4 weeks are trending in the right direction and Summer booking are in line with what is happening to all airlines in the UK just now ie people are delaying making booking because of concerns over their future (not baby's) and a general lack of confidence. Look at TCX
Mutleyshriek, Servisair are the handling agents for baby at BHD and STN.
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Some people tend to forget that November is a "dead" month in our little part of the UK when it comes to passenger numbers.. at this time of year its really only the London routes perform decent numbers throughout the week.. most other routes are peak weekend traffic and the "winter suns" even take a dip in numbers.. it'll be quiet until round the 7th December when students start moving around and shortly after that you get everyone travelling at Christmas..
Can't comment on BHD-STN, thought it would see better numbers by now, but as for BHD-AMS, N.I doesn't need 2-3 flights a day during the quiet winter period going to AMS, during summer.. most certainly
Welcome to winter
Can't comment on BHD-STN, thought it would see better numbers by now, but as for BHD-AMS, N.I doesn't need 2-3 flights a day during the quiet winter period going to AMS, during summer.. most certainly
Welcome to winter
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Have to agree, it very quiet aloft.......
NI doesn't need 6 flights a day between Belfast and EMA either, but it seems Flybe won't give up and bmibaby can't give up! i guess that when bmibaby's new owners set out their plans going forward, then Flybe will be able to judge if bmibaby are to be in bhd long term and whether its worth them staying on the route, they too have had some very low numbers this past week on this route.
Looks like another couple of quid on short-haul APD from April.....
NI doesn't need 6 flights a day between Belfast and EMA either, but it seems Flybe won't give up and bmibaby can't give up! i guess that when bmibaby's new owners set out their plans going forward, then Flybe will be able to judge if bmibaby are to be in bhd long term and whether its worth them staying on the route, they too have had some very low numbers this past week on this route.
Looks like another couple of quid on short-haul APD from April.....
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Menzies are the agent in Ams and have access to inbound and outbound figures,I did not mention dismal loads on the Stn to with Menzies only Ams.Bmibaby management are far from happy on sun routes and the yeilds are dismal so far.I know guys because I worked at the group for over ten years and still have many connections there.Get a grip Inkjet,every route they launched from Bhd is underperforming ffs get real lad.
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Its the same team of bmibaby knockers who over the last two years have said variously that it would be bust by now
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Looking at EMA seems BE intending double daily right through summer and 3 rotations on a friday, WW continuing with 3 per day, will one concede I wonder? STN is down to 2 rotations throughout the year now which seems more prudent, easyjet have cut to 3 - 4 daily STN-BFS, obviously as a result of SEN flights, which may help WW somewhat.
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What is the likelyhood that Baby are purchased by an airport? I had a conversation with somebody this week who suggested that there is an airport currently interested. It would seem to fit the ambitions of the said airport. Personally, I think that baby will end up involved with Jet2.