BA/AA/CO/IB Merger/cooperation (Merged)
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I can only agree with apaddyinuk regarding service levels. IB have been pushing their product downmarket for years and this may not fit well with BA's model. However their product is undoubtably succesful and at times like these, that is what matters.
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This is what I find most baffling about this as well. However much BA tries to keep the IB brand separate, ownership will inevitably link IB to BA. At present, you can look at IB service levels, shrug your shoulders, and write it off as an exception to the quality generally found across oneworld. After the merger, it really won't be that easy.
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BA/AA tie up on the cards again
From the BBC:
"BA close to American alliance
BA says talks with American Airlines are nearing a conclusion. British Airways says it is hopeful of agreeing a tie-up with its largest US rival American Airlines within weeks.
The talks are taking place alongside negotiations between BA and the Spanish airline Iberia about a possible merger.
With aviation fuel prices at record levels and spending on air travel slowing, airlines are looking for ways to cut costs.
BA suffered an 88% drop in profits between April and June and said the industry faced its worst ever period.
It also said it would cut 3% of flights this winter to reduce overheads.
British Airways and American Airlines already work together as partners in the One World alliance which lets member airlines share flight capacity and airport facilities.
But it is understood that, if agreed, a new deal would see them work much more closely to try to cut costs in areas such as technology, ticketing and administration.
According to the BBC's business reporter Joe Lynam, British Airways is also hoping to secure its status as a global airline well into the future.
Any deal between BA and AA would be subject to regulatory scrutiny.
The two airlines have failed in the past to gain immunity from US competition laws for a tie-up, but British Airways believes that relaxations in regulations under the Open Skies agreement may make this more likely.
Rival Virgin Atlantic has said it would oppose any joint venture between the two transatlantic carriers, saying it would create "a dominant mega-power" on routes between Europe and the United States."
"BA close to American alliance
BA says talks with American Airlines are nearing a conclusion. British Airways says it is hopeful of agreeing a tie-up with its largest US rival American Airlines within weeks.
The talks are taking place alongside negotiations between BA and the Spanish airline Iberia about a possible merger.
With aviation fuel prices at record levels and spending on air travel slowing, airlines are looking for ways to cut costs.
BA suffered an 88% drop in profits between April and June and said the industry faced its worst ever period.
It also said it would cut 3% of flights this winter to reduce overheads.
British Airways and American Airlines already work together as partners in the One World alliance which lets member airlines share flight capacity and airport facilities.
But it is understood that, if agreed, a new deal would see them work much more closely to try to cut costs in areas such as technology, ticketing and administration.
According to the BBC's business reporter Joe Lynam, British Airways is also hoping to secure its status as a global airline well into the future.
Any deal between BA and AA would be subject to regulatory scrutiny.
The two airlines have failed in the past to gain immunity from US competition laws for a tie-up, but British Airways believes that relaxations in regulations under the Open Skies agreement may make this more likely.
Rival Virgin Atlantic has said it would oppose any joint venture between the two transatlantic carriers, saying it would create "a dominant mega-power" on routes between Europe and the United States."
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Rival Virgin Atlantic has said it would oppose any joint venture between the two transatlantic carriers, saying it would create "a dominant mega-power" on routes between Europe and the United States."
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Oh great. Haven't we been down this road before? If it was to come off wouldn't it enable BA/AA/IB to charge what they like on their routes and sod the passenger?
I'm going to defect and ask my travel team if I can start using Lufthansa!
I'm going to defect and ask my travel team if I can start using Lufthansa!
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Why should BA/IB/AA tie up be any different to AF/KL/DL/NW??
It's all Europe and American tie ups, so BA/AA/IB should be allowed to do this if all carriers are to be treated the same.
It's all Europe and American tie ups, so BA/AA/IB should be allowed to do this if all carriers are to be treated the same.
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Dan Air 87,
BA/IB/AA would have less of a majority over major routes than AF/KL/NW/DL. I don't see the problem with this merger, the latter was approved and if it's blocked then there is a serious issue with fairness of competition.
As for Lufthansa, they have a much bigger majority at Frankfurt than BA do at LHR, yet of course only BA shall be criticised so that point is invalid.
When Richard Branson starts throwing his toys out of the pram, he will be shunned because he hasn't got a foot to stand on anymore with the revelation of open skies.
BA/IB/AA would have less of a majority over major routes than AF/KL/NW/DL. I don't see the problem with this merger, the latter was approved and if it's blocked then there is a serious issue with fairness of competition.
As for Lufthansa, they have a much bigger majority at Frankfurt than BA do at LHR, yet of course only BA shall be criticised so that point is invalid.
When Richard Branson starts throwing his toys out of the pram, he will be shunned because he hasn't got a foot to stand on anymore with the revelation of open skies.
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"I believe that this will have strong repercussions for Spanish ATC and how they will manage their approach/departure priority (queue-jumping) policy."
Perhaps BA should take over Alitalia as well
Perhaps BA should take over Alitalia as well
