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Old 6th Dec 2008, 02:27
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Great touch

Linking to a map, available interlines, and finding Zoom Airlines – Low Fare Leader Across the Atlantic.

Very finger on the pulse in the given climate!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 6th Dec 2008, 18:25
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Nothing on Manx2's website yet about IOM - CEG.

Where did the information come from? I had heard it rumoured a while ago, coupled with plans to extend opening hours at CEG in the new year.

Confirmation would be welcome!
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Old 8th Dec 2008, 19:57
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I work at Hawarden. The schedule was outlined by Chester Handling, as a regular charter aircraft.
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Old 9th Dec 2008, 14:04
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Legal Beagle wrote:

Confirmation would be welcome!
Ditto
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Old 9th Dec 2008, 16:24
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IOM Today reporting a dedicated hospital patient transfer service will operate twice daily to Hawarden using a Manx2 D228, chartered by the IoM DHSS.

Looks as though there will be no scheduled passenger service offered.

Link to DHSS press release here:

Isle of Man Patients to Receive Broadened Air Transfer Service to UK - Isle of Man Airport Website

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Old 10th Dec 2008, 14:02
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If it 'takes off' then it would be good to see it turn into a scheduled route. Obviously if the airport authorities at CEG are not intrested its unlikely. But all the same its another good move by Manx2.com! Best of Luck.
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 15:46
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I certainly hope the routes become a success and keeps Manx2 flying!

Heard on the IOM thread that BE maybe launching BHD and BLK. What could this mean for Manx2 as these are two of their main destinations? I am guessing that it would be 2x daily on the BHD and daily on the BLK which would not take too many businesses travellers off of them, especially on the BLK but surely it would affect passenger numbers on these two launch routes?
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 17:31
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good bye Manxy 2, fella, thats waht'l happen. Those flybe fellas won't stop til they've killed all the little operators off same as they did the the euros by killing thme off on Liverpool. Not good for the locals this monoply.
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 18:35
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Oh dear............BHD and BLK has all the characteristics of FlyBe's toys going out of the pram over the Manx2 flights for DHSS.
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 19:27
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This is starting to get annoying - stop accusing Flybe of throwing their toys out of the pram. Why would they give a monkeys toss over what Manx2 do? they are hardly a big competitor now are they. Flybe do not intend to make all the other carriers go bust - afterall if they are as good as you make them out to be they should survive as passengers will use them over the newbie.

Euromanx failed because they did not understand how to run a succesful company. That is why its CEO ran like a coward on the day they went down.

Mods - can we please stop all this pathetic moaning about BE and the routes they select to operate?

Nothing has been confirmed - this has just led on from a rumour on another thread. I am not saying it wont happen but there is no suffient evidence to back this up at the moment.
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 19:53
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How quaint and how touching! So - FlyBe do not use their size and commercial muscle to attempt to demolish small, potential commercial opposition to gain market share? Ever? Numerous comments and the general air of cynicism on this and other threads would suggest otherwise! I expect that you believe that this 'rumour' - which I too have heard today - is pure coincidence and nothing to do with Manx 2 capturing a bit of their Liverpool business?

And what is this about Mods stopping fair comment and speculation? You got shares in FlyBe?
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 20:01
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Cloud1 fella if you hadn't noticed from up there on your high horse this is a RUMOUR network. I can just imagine the manx2 people thinking great - flybe is going to come on our bread and butter routes and cut our pax numbers. Come on fella, get real. flybe is biig enough to wipe out anyone they care to compete against on a route. why bother going to Belfast or Blackpool if you don't intend to run the routes as a profit and that's done by wiping out the opposition. Whether you say so or not the euros might have been run by some shady characters but flybe starting on Liverpool killed em.

And this Cloud 1 is a big flybe fan - take a look at his past postings, yessir.
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 20:02
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Er.......BE not predatory? What did they do to Eastern's daily IOM SOU? Wheres IOM SOU this winter
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Old 11th Dec 2008, 16:01
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Hmmmm BLK i cannot see happening but BHD is a definite possibility!! Doubt it will happen in the near future though.
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Old 11th Dec 2008, 18:05
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It seems, if what I've heard today is correct, that the M2 service to Hawarden will not cater for PRMs - especially WCR & WCS pax. Anyone in the know able to confirm this ?.
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Old 11th Dec 2008, 18:31
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What I experience great difficulty is getting through to those people who are so certain they are right they are not prepared to take a step back and think - not even a little.

mosquitob4 and Tinwald - When on earth will you both realise that the airlines that drop routes are the failure in the equation. It doesn't really have anything to do with pushing airlines out it boils down to what passengers want. Sure it is far from ideal when an airline the size of Flybe moves in on a route a smaller carrier operates but the fact is, and whether you listen or not I could not give a monkeys, the passenger will move to the new airline if they are not happy with the current service be it prices or service in general.

Why would a passenger move otherwise?? Maybe rather than moaning the other carriers should look back and ask why their passenger numbers have dropped so much they have to pull the route now Flybe have stepped in?? I have no doubt at all that both Flybe and Manx2 can operate on the same route as I feel they both cater for different markets but that is a professional opinion and clearly something which is not taken into account with some.

And by the way, I aint on any horse. I am just stating the facts. And yes I am a fan of Flybe, as I work for them (I do not believe I have ever hidden this fact so well done to Einstein here for working it out!)
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Old 11th Dec 2008, 18:40
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Well come on Cloud 1 answer the question, why are you not operating IOM to Southampton year round, as Flybe jumped on a regular year round service offered by Eastern?
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Old 11th Dec 2008, 23:01
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Cloud 1 - it is you who is either not thinking or is so blinded by loyalty to your employer that you cannot see what must be going on right in front of you - unless, of course, your presence on Pprune is sanctioned by and supported by your employer. How can you imply that airlines fail regardless of the actions of others - for that is the logic behind your comments? That FlyBe has nothing to do with others failures? Come off it - just look at their behaviour - using their deeper pockets and cross-subsidising from other routes to undercut and force out other airlines, then using their monopoly to rack up the fares and bleed the customer. That is, of course, a perfectly reasonable business model - you'll see it everywhere - but it IS predatory. Like all such business behaviours, it has a down-side - it is a very short-term strategy which has some serious long term disadvantages. FlyBe's behaviour indicates that it may not yet appreciate that!
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Old 12th Dec 2008, 09:22
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Just to clarify - are flybe looking at IOM to both BHD and BLK, or just BHD to BLK?

If the latter then I can't see M2 being affected too much.....and I can't see the former happening anyhow.

Just a thought.
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Old 12th Dec 2008, 15:53
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Very strong opinion but each to their own!!

Manx2 a/c are not able to take PRMs except WCHR i believe... Is to do with Ambulift vehicle not being suitable for smaller a/c...
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