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Old 20th Nov 2007, 17:40
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Well said baskerville,

After 6 years of business plans and future size and shapes, I'm glad to see the back of them (BA) . They're not interested in the regions, they don't know how to operate in the regions. Now Ransman stop scaring me.

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Old 20th Nov 2007, 18:14
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Absolutely!

What I said about the A318 was that I'd been told that the Certification into LCY was for only one engine type of A318. I don't know which, but I presume the smaller, lighter engine, not the bigger heavier De-rated one. Thus, commonality with operators of A320/321 like BA would be unlikely due to the additional training/spares and other costs.

Only a hypothesis, please don't let it stand in the way of a good rumour spreading!
 
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Not so.
Airbus A318 continues steep approach tests for compatibility approval at London City Airport
30 October 2006
An Airbus A318 powered by CFM International CFM56-5 engines successfully performed a series of compatibility tests, including steep approaches, at London City Airport on Saturday 28th October, demonstrating the aircraft's good neighbour characteristics. The trials complement those previously carried out in May at London City with a Pratt & Whitney PW6000A-powered Airbus A318.
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Old 20th Nov 2007, 21:09
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Either way, the engine type is still not that which BA operates.
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Old 21st Nov 2007, 17:23
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BA leaving LCY

Hmmmm interesting.................was shunted about the regions for 10 long hard years by BA before heading back to the utopia that is LHR(not).
If this happens there are going to be alot of very unhappy "glorified bus drivers" out there. That is an expression 1st coined by Mr BA himself Ayling that is.
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Old 21st Nov 2007, 17:43
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spanishflea - BA actually do operate CFMs on the A320 fleet at the moment, just not for much longer (the BUS* subfleet ex BCal are CFMs, and are leaving the fleet over the next year or so).
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Does anyone know when the leases ends on the remaining RJ100's???

I know XAR and XAS leave in 1Q ans 2Q 08.

How about the Swiss a/c could these return to help CF build there fleet up???
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Old 28th Nov 2007, 21:41
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AR/AS are here to stay in addition to the 2 RJ85's bringing the total nbr of a/c to 12 in summer 2008.
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 07:52
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So is Cityflyer still going to be bought by Flybe ?
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 10:48
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No, this week we're buying out both USAir and American Airlines. Jim French wants to expand his overseas horizons.
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 14:44
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BA Laddy well one of those swiss airframes is still sat in its little hangar on the wrong side of the docks! not sure CF would want it back.
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 15:21
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When WW first mooted that he wanted out of the regions VLM approached BA to take BA Connect although they only wanted the LCY operation as that was the only part of BACON that was making money. They didn't want the rest of the unprofitable regional network. BA said no so VLM pulled out. Flybe came along and said we don't want LCY but we'll take the rest so BA were laughing and handed it to them on a plate. LCY doesn't suit lowcost - that's why FLYBE didn't stick at it!
For political reasons my feelings are that BA will stick with BACF until after the Olympics so at least there's a BA presence within the City but after that it'll be cheeeow!
The RJ100's are going to be replaced by RJ85's so there's less of a performance issue trying to get to Madrid!!

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Old 30th Nov 2007, 16:28
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It's 'mooted' - a much used word and a very good word it is,too. However, it is seldom spelt correctly possibly because when one hears it used in 'the media' it gets mispronounced.
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 17:16
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Not entirely correct. Some of the RJ100's are propably going to be returned, not talking about AR/AS right now. There will be a couple of RJ85's joining the fleet but the RJ100 will remain for high density work like EDI-LCY etc.
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 18:34
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well Dutchbird i doubt if there will be any reduction in the number of airframes now, otherwise its going to be nigh on impossible to run the schedule with the new destinations in place. Possibly a few airframes could be swapped for some 85s like the original plan called for .
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I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that probably a few RJ100's will be swapped around for RJ85's, as you said to accompany the expension.
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