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Old 8th Jul 2007, 17:09
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Toronto Pearson, long haul narrow body aircraft

Toronto Pearson Airport (CYYZ) is one of the most expensive airports in the world to land so most airlines revert to using the most cost effective aircraft on their routes into Pearson. This has resulted in flights I would not want my worst enemies on:

ACA 136 - Airbus 319 - Vancouver - Toronto 4:00 Hours
ACA 106 - Airbus 319 - Edmonton - Toronto 3:30 Hours
MXA 888 - Airbus 319 - Mexico City - Toronto 4:30 Hours
JZA 8625 - CRJ 100 - Atlanta - Toronto 2:00 Hours
ACA 943 - Airbus 319 - Bermuda - Toronto 2:45 Hours
ACA 758 - Airbus 320 - San Francisco - Toronto 4:30 Hours
SKW 33X - CRJ 900 - Salt Lake City - Toronto 3:30 Hours
ACA 1152 - Embraer 190 - Calgary - Toronto 3:45 Hours
UAL 726 - Airbus 319 - San Francisco - Toronto 5:00 Hours

Can't imagine what 5 hours on an airbus A319 must be like...
 
Old 8th Jul 2007, 17:21
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A bit better than 7 on a 737 maybe?
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Not sure what your point is. If the demand was there they'd use bigger aircraft.
Air France had a B747-400 last week when I was there and BA had a B747-400 and 2 B767-300s.
And Air Canada use the A340 across Canada too.
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so most airlines revert to using the most cost effective aircraft on their routes into Pearson.
Eh, don't most airlines do this on all routes?

Anyway, what's wrong with 4 hours on an A319? If you have the same size seat as on, say a 767, what difference does it make?
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What is wrong with 3 and a half hours on an A319? A seat is a seat and they still have IFE.

Are you suggesting that if Pearson wasn't so expensive to land that Air Canada would use a 777 or 340 to YEG? Not likely.

Air France seemed to start using the B747-400 for the summer season. Not sure if they will revert to the A340 when the schedules change again
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I'm not sure what your point is here either - airlines who have a range of types in their fleet use what they think is most appropriate. Certainly the vast majority of 4-hour flights across Europe use narrow body aircraft. What passengers want is frequency rather than once-daily or less frequent widebody flights that you can get away with transatlantic.

Canada is a large, thinly-populated country. Total population is no more than double the numbers you can see from the top of the London Eye here in London, there are not cities on the scale of New York or Paris. There isn't the large flow of passengers you can see elsewhere.

I first went to Toronto on a Wardair 707 from Prestwick when every transatlantic flight was a narrowbody. Nobody complained.
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Worked a 319 into London last shift, came across the pond from Canada.
Large German carrier uses both Airbus and Boeing narrow-bodies on thin-route scheds. Very luxurious and quite executive I imagine.
Swiss carrier uses a B738, UK carrier uses B737, across the pond...nothing unusual. I can't even begin to count the number of B757's on the ocean every day. I say well done for reducing the carbon footprint where-ever possible.....compliments all round. Remember that a fully loaded B757 weighs less than a full load of fuel on a B747.
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