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Was there not talk earlier in the year of covering the void in the main departure area with a second floor (between the old Serviceair lounge and the bar)? The masterplan seemed to suggest a double height pier with access from the second floor. This plan might be "on the rocks" due to the current design of the building!!
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I think we have to differentiate between what the airport is doing now in the short term (where it does not need planning consent) to try to deal with ever-increasing passenger numbers and what it wants to do in the longer term (ie incrementally over the next five years), as set out in the master plan, to bring about a facility that can cope comfortably with 9 million passengers per year.
It has recently extended the mezzanine floor area to provide an increased space for tables to accommodate those using the airside refreshment outlets.
During the winter it will increase the number of security lanes/ x-ray machines to nine by extending the space above the landside ground floor arrivals area.
The master plan calls, inter alia, for the terminal building to be doubled in size with extensions at both the eastern and western ends. A two-level covered corridor/pier would take passengers from/to parked aircraft to/from the terminal. Plans and drawings of this scheme can be seen in the master plan, accessible via the airport's website.
There is nothing in the plan suggesting a lengthy covered walkway to the area currently occupied by stand 23 etc.
The submission of planning applications for the extended terminal and the other infrastructure enhancements are already over 18 months behind the original publicly-stated schedule. This is partly due to the need for independent scrutiny of the airport's proposals, some of which has now been done, to satisfy the requests of the local authority, and the new CEO taking a look at the entire shooting match.
The minutes of the last Consultative Committee meeting (held in July) state that the landside catering outlet is to be removed airside in November to improve the flow management for security purposes. I don't quite follow this as the security area is on the first floor. Furthermore, this will presumably mean more scarce airside passenger space being lost.
The same minutes speak of zoning the western apron with one for cargo/mail flights and the other for passenger flights. Has this already been done?
As usual, the CO flight to EWR gets a mention in the minutes with the load split given as 60% originating in the UK and 40% in the USA which is much better than was once the case when it was predominantly UK pax using the service.
It has recently extended the mezzanine floor area to provide an increased space for tables to accommodate those using the airside refreshment outlets.
During the winter it will increase the number of security lanes/ x-ray machines to nine by extending the space above the landside ground floor arrivals area.
The master plan calls, inter alia, for the terminal building to be doubled in size with extensions at both the eastern and western ends. A two-level covered corridor/pier would take passengers from/to parked aircraft to/from the terminal. Plans and drawings of this scheme can be seen in the master plan, accessible via the airport's website.
There is nothing in the plan suggesting a lengthy covered walkway to the area currently occupied by stand 23 etc.
The submission of planning applications for the extended terminal and the other infrastructure enhancements are already over 18 months behind the original publicly-stated schedule. This is partly due to the need for independent scrutiny of the airport's proposals, some of which has now been done, to satisfy the requests of the local authority, and the new CEO taking a look at the entire shooting match.
The minutes of the last Consultative Committee meeting (held in July) state that the landside catering outlet is to be removed airside in November to improve the flow management for security purposes. I don't quite follow this as the security area is on the first floor. Furthermore, this will presumably mean more scarce airside passenger space being lost.
The same minutes speak of zoning the western apron with one for cargo/mail flights and the other for passenger flights. Has this already been done?
As usual, the CO flight to EWR gets a mention in the minutes with the load split given as 60% originating in the UK and 40% in the USA which is much better than was once the case when it was predominantly UK pax using the service.
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MV I think you mean landside as when the food village reverts to airside the airport will finally be out of bounds to people like my dad who have been watching aircraft from the terminal since before the late great Les Wilson days.
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Afraid for spotters/public the Burger king, food village and bar will be airside from this winter and will help alleviate the cramped Departure lounge.
It is kind of a shame spotters are gradually being forced out of viewing areas at airports but sadly we are not in an age where nostalgia can dictate development. EXT has closed their gallery off to non traveling public recently too. I think its also fair to say that the view from landside is some what restricted to a couple of stands anyway and wont be a major loss! I also doubt that financially Spotters bring in a lot of revenue and would be suprised if they even make up 1 or 2 % of the terminals revenue.
The '09' area is the best place to see the aircraft from anyway.
It is kind of a shame spotters are gradually being forced out of viewing areas at airports but sadly we are not in an age where nostalgia can dictate development. EXT has closed their gallery off to non traveling public recently too. I think its also fair to say that the view from landside is some what restricted to a couple of stands anyway and wont be a major loss! I also doubt that financially Spotters bring in a lot of revenue and would be suprised if they even make up 1 or 2 % of the terminals revenue.
The '09' area is the best place to see the aircraft from anyway.
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Not only spotters and general public but what about the staff who work landside only that will no longer be able to get a hot meal, do the airport not care abouth them either? also the '09' area is only good if 1.you have a car, 2.you can find a space for your car and 3.you dont mind tearing the underside of your car off trying to negotiate your way through the ditches and pot holes to a parking space!
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Not only spotters and general public but what about the staff who work landside only that will no longer be able to get a hot meal, do the airport not care abouth them either?
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I posted the comments about my dad slightly tongue in cheek because he knows what is going on before a lot of people because of people he knows very well at the airport. As for the staff getting hot food I work there and you cannot get meat and two veg or pie and chips at any of the outlets mentioned.
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But its 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.....
Looking at this in a purely selfish manner, Airside staff pay overinflated prices for hot meals at the moment and don't have time to sit down anyway and there is little takeaway choice. You are unable to have for example a BK Meal from landside as the liquid restrictions hinder transition, so you end up paying more for a burger and fries than the meal deal itself! Also operational staff dont have time to go through security and a lot of these staff have to be airside at all times!
Looking at this in a purely selfish manner, Airside staff pay overinflated prices for hot meals at the moment and don't have time to sit down anyway and there is little takeaway choice. You are unable to have for example a BK Meal from landside as the liquid restrictions hinder transition, so you end up paying more for a burger and fries than the meal deal itself! Also operational staff dont have time to go through security and a lot of these staff have to be airside at all times!
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the airport should really create a staff canteen anyway-its not like it wudnt be possible except for space. Your right when you say landside staff should have somewhere to eat, and it takes ages to go through security sometimes anyway. I opnly have a half hour break and to go through security and buy foodtakes half ofthat mostly!!! BIA staff get massive discounts on all food and we dont get as much so we spend loads biying overpriced food as well!
btw the talk of the walkway extending down to the western apron unfortunatly is true. they are gonna start building it soon.....and its gonna be crap! i can just see how many misboards are gonna occur-pax getting on the wrong aircrafts as there still isnt enough staff there! great!
btw the talk of the walkway extending down to the western apron unfortunatly is true. they are gonna start building it soon.....and its gonna be crap! i can just see how many misboards are gonna occur-pax getting on the wrong aircrafts as there still isnt enough staff there! great!
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Would this be similar to the one thats on the Eastern apron, or will it be a little more 'constructed'? If its going to be another one of those things, heaven forbid..they're not the most suited things to life there.
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I'm led to believe it will be a proper walkway leading to the boarding gates and holding area’s. So hopefully not like the waste of money and time that the oh so useful forward coaching lounge is, but sadly I think it’ll be some poorly thought through and cheaply made effort, please prove me wrong BIA.
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BMI baby in process of announcing new routes ex CWL to both WAW & GDN - all over the news this morning, nothing on their web page yet though.
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Oslo
This link is posted on another forum:
"http://wpy.observer.se/wpyfs/00/00/00/00/00/0A/C5/1A/wkr0018.pdf"
Can anyone translate?
It definitely mentions Oslo / Bristol but type / frequency etc?
"neste sommer"
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"http://wpy.observer.se/wpyfs/00/00/00/00/00/0A/C5/1A/wkr0018.pdf"
Can anyone translate?
It definitely mentions Oslo / Bristol but type / frequency etc?
"neste sommer"
No SAS or BIA press releases