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Old 9th Jul 2009, 16:49
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Prestwick routes......

What's happening with the Ryanair Christmas routes? Have tried to look at flights from Prestwick to Milan but there is nothing? Also noticed a few other Prestwick routes have disappeared towards winter. Will they be added later or have they been cancelled altogether? I know some of the other ones have been cut back but haven't been able to find any information about Prestwick......
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Old 9th Jul 2009, 19:00
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very good
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Old 9th Jul 2009, 19:57
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This is a disaster, how are travellers supposed to get from Stansted to Zweibrücken (where ever that is) now...
Don't stress ASFKAP, they'll just get there using the means they did before the STN-ZQW route was introduced. Zweibrücken is in Germany by the way.
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Old 9th Jul 2009, 20:21
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ASFKAP, "FR leaving Zweibrücken in Germany after only 1 year. Last flights to STN in October" is a very valid post in this thread. More valid than many. Your own included. Your belittlement of it disgusts me
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Charlie - go easy on ASFKAP. I doubt he/she meant harm to the good people of Zweibrucken.... but Ryanair have a greater tendency than other airlines to fly to places which really are a long way from population centres. The fact that the route lasted only 12 months indicates that there were very few people willing to pay substantial amounts of money to fly Stansted-Zweibrucken. If few people are willing to pay for a product, this generally means that relatively few consumers needed or wanted it enough to pay for it

Being a little flippant every now and then is not such a bad thing
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Charlie - go easy on ASFKAP. I doubt he/she meant harm to the good people of Zweibrucken
Well he/she could pay them a little more respect if he/she didn't. It's not the first time this has happened.

but Ryanair have a greater tendency than other airlines to fly to places which really are a long way from population centres
Is there a problem with this?

The fact that the route lasted only 12 months indicates that there were very few people willing to pay substantial amounts of money to fly Stansted-Zweibrucken.
Possibly, certainly doesn't prove it wasn't a profitable route for Ryanair. The average fare is far from being the most important factor on many of it's marginal routes.

If few people are willing to pay for a product, this generally means that relatively few consumers needed or wanted it enough to pay for it
Thanks for that.

Phew! Thats alright then, we can go on Lufthansa.......
ASFKAP, yes Lufthansa from Heathrow or London City to Frankfurt, with a ground connection to Zweibrücken would work OK too.
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Old 9th Jul 2009, 23:43
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Zweibrücken

a small regional town with a relatively small population base (approx 40000) and a major city like London
Saarbrücken (200,000) is 40km to the west of Zweibrücken and no doubt Ryanair were actively targeting this population who have no direct route to London from their local airport. Who knows the exact reasons why the route is being cancelled. Low demand / yield or a hissy fit between Ryanair and the airport when the introductory reduced fees turned out to be just that: introductory. Ryanair have been known to cut profitable routes just because they weren't getting their way on charges with an airport. So we'll never know I suppose.
Winners: London routes to Luxembourg, Hahn, Frankfurt, Karlsruhe, Strasbourg.
Losers: People wishing to fly between London and Zweibrücken / Saarland / North Eastern Alsace.
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Old 10th Jul 2009, 09:11
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FR launched Zweibrücken cause of the 3€ "tax" at HHN which not came and now they're leaving and maybe increasing HHN-STN next summer.

If you read italian newspapers (maybe not the best source) Genova could be a base from 2010.

Con due milioni di passeggeri l'aeroporto dribbla lo stadio | Genova la Repubblica.it
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Old 11th Jul 2009, 15:43
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Aircraft Info

what aircraft will be operating:

LPL - PSA FR9626 on the 30th July
PSA - LPL FR9627 on the 2nd August

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will these aircraft have the new leather seats or the old material seats

many thanks,

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Old 12th Jul 2009, 01:44
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Operating aircraft

It wouldn't yet be known as to the registration of the aircraft operating those respective flights. Although there would be a very rough idea the issue is that
  • Unscheduled mx
  • Crewing
  • Airport curfews
  • Aircraft mx checks i.e. A B C D checks
All of these factor into the rotation of aircraft through the network.

For example a DUB based a/c arrives into LPL. The DUB based crew perform a down route a/c swap and bring back a different 738 to DUB for line maintenance and scheduled checks.
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Old 12th Jul 2009, 12:34
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ahhh thanks for that, so there is no way of finding out what aircraft i get untill the day or nearer those dates.
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Old 12th Jul 2009, 22:00
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Should be about 48-24 hours before the ships are assigned to routings.
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Old 12th Jul 2009, 23:40
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Saarbrucken

If Zweibrucken airport was trying to market itself to the people of Saarbrucken, it was doing a lousy job. Not only does Saarbrucken have its own airport (with Luxair having their 2nd base there after Luxembourg), but the bus times from Zweibrucken airport to either Saarbrucken or the nearer Homburg were pretty lousy for anyone wanting to visit from London.

To those who want to go from London to Saarbrucken on an LCC, even before the Zweibrucken route was canned, going via Hahn seems to be the least worst option. Then again, given that the minibus on the evening of 11 July from Saarbrucken, Homburg and Ramstein to Hahn had a grand total of 4 passengers, I suspect not a lot of people want to make this journey.
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Old 13th Jul 2009, 19:43
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Winter 2009

Re Ryaniar for winter 2009/10 at the UK bases.

Anyone in the know at Ryanair able to say if there is a further winter release.

Most UK bases I have checked have based aircraft reductions for the winter period on the current released programme, EMA, BRS and BHX to name three I have looked at.

Not asking for destinations etc but at present the reductions are high, perhaps something to do with incresing taxes.

Centre cities

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Old 14th Jul 2009, 23:01
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On line check in

I'm flying with Ryanair on Monday, so I did my on-line check in tonight.

I was asked questions like 'Have you packed your bag yourself?' 'Could anybody have put things in your bag?' etc.

when evidently I haven't packed it yet... too much laundry to be done.

I'm not knocking Ryanair for this at all, as anyone, you would think will always state the 'correct' answer, whether on line or a check-in desk.

What's the point? I'd be grateful if any check-in workers would let us know if anybody has given the 'wrong' answer and what happens to them if so?
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Old 15th Jul 2009, 01:23
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Hi johnnychips -

Well I've never had to give the "wrong" answer via online check-in, but I have at the airport. A couple of years ago I checked in at MAN for my Jet2 flight to Pisa and was asked, "Are you carrying anything for anybody else?"

"Yes , I am" I replied, as indeed I was. A bag full of home comforts for a friend based in Pisa for a year to study Italian at the university there.

The poor trainee check-in girl looked stunned and scarcely knew how to reply, but her supervisor soon stepped in and directed me to have my luggage x-rayed nearby prior to acceptance for the flight. And that is all that really needs to happen; an extra layer of security checking for the affected luggage.

Hope this answers the question.

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Old 15th Jul 2009, 11:55
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A couple of years ago I checked in at MAN for my Jet2 flight to Pisa and was asked, "Are you carrying anything for anybody else?"

"Yes , I am" I replied, as indeed I was. A bag full of home comforts for a friend based in Pisa for a year to study Italian at the university there.
Yes but you well know they meant were you given stuff by a 3rd party to carry on.

I agree though that the question can be interpreted a couple of different ways and depends on the mood of the Pax and Checkin operator.

Best was going with a couple of mates on a flight and everyone getting asked did you pack the bags yourself.

One guy to his enternal shame never got to answer as another mate stated loudly, "of course he didn't his mum packed it for him", the look of Pity from the checkin girl said it all.
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Old 15th Jul 2009, 13:12
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German consumer organization opposing FR´s payment fees.
Ryanair cricket protest : Stansted Airport News Stories
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Old 15th Jul 2009, 23:15
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Hi Racedo -

The stuff DID belong to a third party (the student who had asked me to bring it on the flight) and I WAS carrying it on. Hence what I "know well" is that the only legitimate answer to the security question put to me was: "YES!"

Why do you presume to second-guess me about the composition of my own luggage? Do you suggest lying when asked the security questions? Maybe that is what you do?

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Old 15th Jul 2009, 23:32
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Carrying something for someone else or carrying on behalf of someone else are two vastly different things.

Buying the items yourself, they are then your items even though you may pass onto someone else. What you do with them after reaching you destination is up to you.

Carrying a package of goods given to you by someone else for another party is discloseable.
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