Hellenic Imperial Airways Athens
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I just wish to make the comeent that the crews of Aegean are well trained and operate as well as any other airline in Europe. The same can not be said for Olympic or Universal.
Air Universal did in fact now receive their AOC and are waiting for their commercial certificate before being able to operate.
An outside audit needs to be made of this company.
Air Universal did in fact now receive their AOC and are waiting for their commercial certificate before being able to operate.
An outside audit needs to be made of this company.
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A lot of negativity re Hellenic. The Greek CAA may not be ideal, but Air Universal in this latest venture have spent 18 months getting a JAA AOC, they have had to comply with all requirements - it was not bought - and they have carried out training on sim, and groundschool for pilots and cabin crew to full JAA requirements. Maintenenance is by KLM, so it is not being done on the cheap. The delay in the commercial licence is a result of petty local politics and has meant missing the Hajj, the licence is a peculiar local restriction.
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International Hog - I used to be a Junior Officer on a Liberian Flagged Chemical Tanker ten years ago! It's now registered in the Caymans as it's cheaper with less legislation.
Your right though, flagging out has damaged the reputation of many a respectable shipping line / owner. The same will happen for the airline industry if it's allowed to continue.
Plane crashes make bigger global headlines than maritime incidents (unless of course it's in your own backyard -MSC Napoli)
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Your right though, flagging out has damaged the reputation of many a respectable shipping line / owner. The same will happen for the airline industry if it's allowed to continue.
Plane crashes make bigger global headlines than maritime incidents (unless of course it's in your own backyard -MSC Napoli)Regards
Wiggly
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ERA (Europian Regions Assosiation) is just an organization for small regional companies like Aegean, Aer Arann, Binter Airlines.....etc and they give awards to each other. Mr oxogekas340 don t forget the aegeans realy like to work under pressure, low salary, no seniority and every 6 months they have to face sim
to feel like real professionals...
, Aer Arann, Binter Airlines.....etc and they give awards to each other. Mr oxogekas340 don t forget the aegeans realy like to work under pressure, low salary, no seniority and every 6 months they have to face sim to feel like real professionals...
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I don't know if u "escape", and still work with them. Your "ex" ceo mr antonis, was te era president...is it so? And i don't think that your company is profitable anymore....or is it?
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Thanks for query on Hellenic, looking at my last post I was wildly optimistic. I have worked for much worse airlines, but as this was a JAA airline, like my licence, I was not prepared to accept third world standards. Route expectations failed - we ended up based in Tripoli, Libya, and tech requirements and flight time limitations were totally ignored. I told them that unless they could guarantee that I would not be required to operate illegally I would not be continuing, they failed to provide answer satisfactorily, and I left. Their AOC was subsequently suspended for the irregularities of which I had complained. It could - should - have been a lovely little operation, but spoiled by poor standards.
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Airliner747, I am sorry if my response offended you. Let me try to offer some more thoughts, and let me say that I am not based in Greece and have never flown with Hellenic Imperial, so perhaps I am not the best-qualified to answer your question (hopefully other people here will be able to do so). My view of the airline is based on its "public face", for example its website, and on its history of network development.
Here are just a couple of examples of why I don't get a very good impression of the seriousness of the carrier when I look at their website. The last press release on the site is from July 2011 announcing the suspension of flights to Gatwick. Elsewhere on the site I read "the official inaugural flight for our scheduled route between Athens and New York will be on the 24th of June 2011." I find a destination page about Kuwait with a picture of Cape Town, and a broken booking engine. All in all, it looks as though the website has been abandoned - it certainly isn't being kept up to date. Even if a company is no longer selling directly to the public (e.g. if it's an ACMI carrier), surely it shouldn't leave such an unflattering image of itself on show?
In the past, Hellenic Imperial has announced (and IIRC briefly operated) scheduled routes to Birmingham, London, Johannesburg, Jeddah, Casablanca and New York. In terms of scheduled service, it appears to have had huge ambitions but to have been consistently unable to deliver on them. Perhaps it does better with charters, but as I mentioned above, its website gives a completely unprofessional impression.
I hope that explains why I don't have a high opinion of the company. However, as I say, my opinion is based on a view "from the outside", and I hope that someone who has more expertise on the subject can tell you more.
Here are just a couple of examples of why I don't get a very good impression of the seriousness of the carrier when I look at their website. The last press release on the site is from July 2011 announcing the suspension of flights to Gatwick. Elsewhere on the site I read "the official inaugural flight for our scheduled route between Athens and New York will be on the 24th of June 2011." I find a destination page about Kuwait with a picture of Cape Town, and a broken booking engine. All in all, it looks as though the website has been abandoned - it certainly isn't being kept up to date. Even if a company is no longer selling directly to the public (e.g. if it's an ACMI carrier), surely it shouldn't leave such an unflattering image of itself on show?
In the past, Hellenic Imperial has announced (and IIRC briefly operated) scheduled routes to Birmingham, London, Johannesburg, Jeddah, Casablanca and New York. In terms of scheduled service, it appears to have had huge ambitions but to have been consistently unable to deliver on them. Perhaps it does better with charters, but as I mentioned above, its website gives a completely unprofessional impression.
I hope that explains why I don't have a high opinion of the company. However, as I say, my opinion is based on a view "from the outside", and I hope that someone who has more expertise on the subject can tell you more.
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Quite sad really, I managed to catch a captain in August and talk to him... he said the future wasn't clear...
Last time I was in the ATC Tower of LGAV they were departing to HLLB...
Here is a video of the abandoned B742. What a shame
Last time I was in the ATC Tower of LGAV they were departing to HLLB...
Here is a video of the abandoned B742. What a shame
