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Is LGW the only airport remaining in the UK now where crew are required to take off their shoes to pass through security. Or are there any other foot fetishist security strongholds still remaining. ??
Just curious because most airports do not require it anymore. Not even for Pax.
Just curious because most airports do not require it anymore. Not even for Pax.
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No it's most definitely not "common sense really". Do you know that the, so-called, shoe bomber's bomb had no metal in it or it's firing mechanism?
It is a pain indeed, when one is asked to take one's shoes off and I personally feel that common sense is not always displayed by those who seek to security check us. e.g. a clearly infirm old person who has difficulty removing shoes unaided, but rules is rules, I'm afraid and there is little point in moaning about it until we come to inhabit a more civilised world than we do at present.
No it's most definitely not "common sense really". Do you know that the, so-called, shoe bomber's bomb had no metal in it or it's firing mechanism?
It is a pain indeed, when one is asked to take one's shoes off and I personally feel that common sense is not always displayed by those who seek to security check us. e.g. a clearly infirm old person who has difficulty removing shoes unaided, but rules is rules, I'm afraid and there is little point in moaning about it until we come to inhabit a more civilised world than we do at present.
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Paxed recently (as a normal pax) ex LHR to the continent recently. Out of T3. Signs there saying please take shoes off if requested. Passed through with shoes on, no drama.
But a QF long-haul mate of mine says it's 100% shoes off for crew. Why???
It's all about quotas. It has to be. The security idiots require a % of throughput to be shoes off, and crews are a soft target. If they complain they risk being sacked. So easier to harass them than deal with pi$$ed off pax. And keeps the % quotas up.
Really achieves the security objectives, doesn't it?
OBL is absolutely cacking himself!
But a QF long-haul mate of mine says it's 100% shoes off for crew. Why???
It's all about quotas. It has to be. The security idiots require a % of throughput to be shoes off, and crews are a soft target. If they complain they risk being sacked. So easier to harass them than deal with pi$$ed off pax. And keeps the % quotas up.
Really achieves the security objectives, doesn't it?
OBL is absolutely cacking himself!
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the current DfT regulations are 1/3 of pax have their shoes screened
Defeats the object of the exercise really as you could choose the queue without the shoe screening.
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As previously stated, the 1 in 3 rule is a DfT directive, there is variety in Airports/Terminals as to how they achieve the 1 in 3.
But the 1 in 3 rule applies to all departing pax. There are different rules that apply in staff search, the 1 in 3 quota is pax only, not staff/crew.
It is worth remembering that "those security idiots" as Ron & Edna Johns terms them
, are not only carrying out the security checks according to the current government directives in line with the present threat level, but they are also looking for all the Prohibited Items and Dangerous Goods as outlined by IATA and acting inline with all the security Acts on the statute books.
All UK airports have to operate to the same high standard, so flying out of Humberside on a charter flight to ALC the security may feel a bit OTT, but out of the constantly busy terminals at the country's largest airports the variety and volume of confiscated items would raise the eyebrows of the vast majority of travellers, even frequent travellers.
Security queues cost airport operators money, huge amounts. The queue is not for the hell of it, queues are a pain to all airport authorities too.
If you are genuinely angered by the current security measures then complain to your MP.
And remember, terrorist only need to get lucky once. Airport Security have to get lucky even single time.
But the 1 in 3 rule applies to all departing pax. There are different rules that apply in staff search, the 1 in 3 quota is pax only, not staff/crew.
It is worth remembering that "those security idiots" as Ron & Edna Johns terms them
, are not only carrying out the security checks according to the current government directives in line with the present threat level, but they are also looking for all the Prohibited Items and Dangerous Goods as outlined by IATA and acting inline with all the security Acts on the statute books. All UK airports have to operate to the same high standard, so flying out of Humberside on a charter flight to ALC the security may feel a bit OTT, but out of the constantly busy terminals at the country's largest airports the variety and volume of confiscated items would raise the eyebrows of the vast majority of travellers, even frequent travellers.
Security queues cost airport operators money, huge amounts. The queue is not for the hell of it, queues are a pain to all airport authorities too.
If you are genuinely angered by the current security measures then complain to your MP.
And remember, terrorist only need to get lucky once. Airport Security have to get lucky even single time.
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Same with me recently at LGW North. At the screening point next to me it was shoes off, not so at the others. I was already taking my shoes off when I was topped. Brilliant logic, as indeed one could choose the queue....
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At CWL im sure it is 1 in 10 for pax if the security staff remembers. I certainly know it's not 1 in 3.
As for staff pax i'm not sure how it works i think it's when they feel.
The reason that people don't believe this is down to the DFT is because not every airport in the UK operates the same. At the hype of the security alert CWL was one of the last to slacken it's security measures as far of taking your shoes off was concerned.
There needs to be a unified approach for every single airport in the UK and therefore passengers cannot be confused and argue that when they travelled through Bristol last week they didn't have to do certain things.
Same as the one baggage rule, there has been conspiracy over this is to cut down to the numbers of bags screened in order to improve passenger per hour ratio.
As for staff pax i'm not sure how it works i think it's when they feel.
The reason that people don't believe this is down to the DFT is because not every airport in the UK operates the same. At the hype of the security alert CWL was one of the last to slacken it's security measures as far of taking your shoes off was concerned.
There needs to be a unified approach for every single airport in the UK and therefore passengers cannot be confused and argue that when they travelled through Bristol last week they didn't have to do certain things.
Same as the one baggage rule, there has been conspiracy over this is to cut down to the numbers of bags screened in order to improve passenger per hour ratio.
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At DUB yesterday the two young men in front of me took of their shoes without being asked yet were rather surprised to be asked to take their jackets off. There was a huge queue and the staff on surveillance must be under a great deal of pressure. Even so, they found something suspicious in my rucksack and the poor man had to go through my dirty socks and underwear till he found it (a CD disk). I was actually quite impressed by this as he was prepared to put safety before speed. However if I'd missed my flight I suspect I'd feel differently.
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Manchester security has a foot fetishist some times all of you take your shoes off or none at all can't work them out .. some get very intiment with you.... have always wanted to ask them if they would like to go out for dinner first but i don't think it would go down to well
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flew from blackpool in march, had to take shoes off, watch, belt etc....
yet on way back through alicante , just belt watch no shoes stay on???
tenerife a month before shoes off? 7am and only 2 secuirty guards on ,and six flights...see the ques of annoyed holiday makers trying to get through for the duty free!!!!(tenerife end not blk!!!))
yet on way back through alicante , just belt watch no shoes stay on???
tenerife a month before shoes off? 7am and only 2 secuirty guards on ,and six flights...see the ques of annoyed holiday makers trying to get through for the duty free!!!!(tenerife end not blk!!!))
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Shoes off, belt off, coat off - all happens on the Isle of Man - but they don't check your ID though!!
The reason that people don't believe this is down to the DFT is because not every airport in the UK operates the same.
We all need to be singing from the same hymn sheet, but will it ever happen? Who knows.
Another one is wanding passengers with a hand held metal detector after hand searching them following an AMD activation (archway metal detector). I believe this has been done at many UK airports to date, only just brought in where I work though. Interesting isnt it...
As for the subject in hand, DfT regulations stipulate 1 in 3 shoes to be removed. Not sure about aircrew (as I seldom work in Crew Search).
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at brs its 1 in 3. also any boots or anything - belts usually stay on. staff dont have to take their shoes off but our jackets all have to come off.
I heard a really awful rumour that I am so glad is not true - there was talk of woman having to take their bras off!!!
I heard a really awful rumour that I am so glad is not true - there was talk of woman having to take their bras off!!!
