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Old 19th Jul 2007, 10:34
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I hope they do get some more aircraft sourced soon. It would be a shame to see them go. As much as they have been in the headlines of late they have done pretty well for them selves out of NCL.

Could we please not turn this thread into a flyjet bashing thread as the last few have become.
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Old 19th Jul 2007, 14:57
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theres always so much speculation goes round about flyjet and there future - i never no what to believe! the latest i heard was that xla were selling 2 767-200's to jet2, next i heard fje were buying them?!
Only tihng i would question is i dont tihnk there would be the work for them out of ncl after they finish the xl contract?! with all the mergers etc cant really see who else would use them from ncl?! maybe there will be work for them from other uk airports but dont really see it from ncl at present, will be a shame to see them go, flew with them twice since they came to newcastle and both were great flights.
silverjet seem to be doing ok though so good look to them!
not much longer to go if it is the end for those working at fje best of luck to them!
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Old 19th Jul 2007, 17:19
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Given the fact they don't seem to be doing anything for anybody come the Winter season, leads me to only one conclusion.
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Old 20th Jul 2007, 08:25
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It will be a great shame if flyjet goes, flew with them last september to tenerife, service was excellent, Left on time crew great, friendly dishy pilot too to cap it off!!!(certainly made this 30 something poofs hightlight!) pity bit more focus by silverjet on this side could bring them some/ if not alot of revenue, would seem though thats not their intention, a great shame, could(should) be a great little airline...
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Old 26th Jul 2007, 18:21
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I have heard that ONE Flyjet 757 will be leaving the fleet after October which will be G-FJEA leaving Newcastle with ZERO aircraft after looking on the XL website all flights change from FJE to XLA nearing the end of October where as at Manchester they remain FJE.
G-FJEB will most probably operate Ad-hoc work through the winter with Manchester crew until this leaves in February.
Next summer season all Newcastle FJE flights are now XLA - XL and KM - Air Malta.
At Manchester all flight codes remain XLATBA.
This looks like the end for Flyjet Newcastle and a uncertain future for Manchester.
Hopefully Flyjet will release some more info soon. After the move of offices to Manchester is this a good move for the company or false promises again.

Again many things going around that they have 2 aircrafts from XL. Dunno if this is 767-200's as Silverjet will probably snap them up before they allow Flyjet to have them.
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Old 26th Jul 2007, 19:53
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Is it not possible that the management at Flyjet, I read somewhere a very experienced team are now looking after FJE, are keeping things for the future close to their chest? It could be true that aircraft have been sourced from XL or an alternative and that work has been secured. Remember when FJE first started not many people knew what they were about and they picked up very unusual work on behalf of other airlines.

It indeed would be a shame to see them disappear, as someone has pointed out. They have had a fair few positive reviews, their crew and onboard service certainly seem to shine through, though their technical dispatch rate is a little poor. Let us all bear in mind that if they do go, people will loose jobs, which is never a good thing.

What happened to their 3 year contract in CPH, has another airline picked up this long haul work?
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Old 27th Jul 2007, 11:52
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Don't forget that all the LGW crew lost their jobs in May!
This is the same story all over again. All this top secret stuff is a load of C**p.
The managment have not got a clue and hope that enough crew will stupidly believe what they are saying that there is a future at Flyjet. Then they will all be let go without even a thank you.
If it is anything like LGW the crew will have to wait months for their final pay which they got wrong for nearly all the crew and they had to fight for it and then wait even longer for their P45's.
Security was a laugh, they did not care if anyone handed back their ID's and did not want the uniform back. The aircraft keys and SEP manuals were not collected. No one bothered it was your are finished and out!
All the crew still have their complete uniform, crew bags, suitcases and SEP manuals!!!
To the crew in NCL or MAN, you know what is going to happen so make sure you have another job and don't think it will not happen to you, just look at LGW.
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Old 27th Jul 2007, 20:06
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Lets not be negative too quickly. Look at what is happening at the charter market in the UK(and lets presume that SJ management are doing the same), the four big companies are merging to form 2. By simply reading other threads I can see that there are rumours around saying that some of these 4 companies are planning on getting rid of aircraft, aircraft that flyjet could get their hands on, but I suppose only after the summer season, just in time for when there's go back. What will also happen from these mergers, routes will be given up! Therefore which charter company is going to pick them up?
I think we are in very interesting times at the moment, this could be very very good news for flyjet, but it will all depend upon what the other airlines do and if the Silverjet management believe that Flyjet can make money.

This could be the opportunity Flyjet has been waiting for!
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Old 28th Jul 2007, 13:32
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I totally agree! and have flown with them twice on holiday in the past and the service was excellent. I believe with a few newer aircraft flyjet could put many other airlines to shame! maybe they will return to adhoc work in the future, it is sad what happend to there cabin crews from LGW, does this mean that the same will happen at there other bases?
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Old 28th Jul 2007, 13:45
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None of this is going to make a blind bit of difference for Flyjet it's days are numbered.

Silverjet never wanted Flyjet, they wanted the AOC and the aircraft, they have made this quite clear. Flyjet is a thorn in their side. They do not want a charter outfit around their neck, it does not fit into their plans in any shape or form.

It's a pity that they do not have the balls to come out and say this once and for all. However, this will never happen as their track record has shown they do not let anyone know anything -even office staff and people that should be included in the loop because they think they are above everyone, do not need to answer to anyone or any organisation (including important one - no names mentioned) and looking down their nose at everyone in their ivory tower.

It looks like the ivory tower has developing some cracks, just wait and see when it shakes a little who is going to fall out. Any guesses?
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Old 28th Jul 2007, 16:09
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NCL would appear to be winding down earlier as flights seem to have been handed back to XL, come mid-october.
What a pity...could be a great little airline
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Old 28th Jul 2007, 20:34
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Heard through the grape line that Zoom will be doing the winter longhaul programme this year for Scanways
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Old 29th Jul 2007, 01:47
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Hope that Flyjet continue in business. Flew with them from Manchester to Dalaman and return earlier this month and had no problem with them.
Flew on G-FJEB both ways and had very smooth flights and excellent on board service. Complimentary breakfast on the way out, which we were not expecting, and it was very tasty. Cabin crew were very friendly.
Female pilot on the outbound flight was very informative and the landing back at Manchester in atrocious weather was extremely smooth.
FJEB is showing its age very badly inside and the legroom was terrible, but these were the only negatives.
I, for one, sincerely hope they survive.
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Old 31st Jul 2007, 09:03
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Well, Flyjet this year is a hell of alot better than Flyjet last year.

Last year the program was far to full for the age of the a/c's this year that has been sorted out, hence alot less deley's.

If you were to look at the performance record from this year to last i think you would see less depatures this year, but a hell of alot of more ontime depatures.

With the SilverJet money behind Flyjet, Flyjet dont have to run the a/c into the ground (so to speak).

This year was all about 'can Flyjet make money' thats all Silverjet are looking at.

It seems to me LGW was losing far to much money so they got rid (higher landing fee, handlings fee's and so on).

So if Flyjet come out with a profit at the end of summer then Silverjet would be stupid to get rid. Lose money then I see the worst.
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Old 31st Jul 2007, 19:15
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A hell of a lot more on time departures ......... Not much comfort for the passengers on this mornings MAN - SSH ..... delayed until tomorrow.
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Old 31st Jul 2007, 23:42
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NCL-TFS delayed from 10.00 got away at 23.00ish i think.

Just watched the BBC news and for f**ks sake how the hell can an airline help if a part of the engine!!
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Old 1st Aug 2007, 00:00
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FJE to TFS got away at 0020... so will see what time it gets back 2mor, will have a knock on effect for 2moros flight????
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Old 1st Aug 2007, 00:19
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Yes it will have a knock on effect. Just as i was leaving work it was showing as INDEF delay.

A 752 is covering for them from euroatlantic and is covering tomorrows flight.
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Old 1st Aug 2007, 10:05
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To me it cannot be blamed on FJE if a part did indeed fall off the engine and cause damage. Could this not happen to any other airline with any other aircraft type?

Media and passengers need to realise that it is peak summer and airlines do not have spare aircraft just sitting around waiting to step in, hence finding an alternative is a challenge and will inevitably cause delays. With only 2 aircraft operating the charter side of the business, I suspect that profits at FJE are very delicate and so they have to do the best with the resources and finances available.

Numerous comments in the media about scrapping the aircraft, or 'they should have newer aircraft' are ridiculous. What new small airline operating within the volatile charter market can afford brand new aircraft from the likes of Boeing and Airbus? None.

Mention also needs to be made, that not once this summer has other airlines been covered in the media for delays, and NCL has had a fair few big ones!

Tech problem are FLYJET actually making money? And even if they are will SJ keep it going. It has been written on this forum that all SJ were interested in was the FJE AOC, so what would make them keep a charter division going? If they did, maybe a re-branding would be a good idea?
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Old 1st Aug 2007, 10:52
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A hell of a lot more on time departures ......... Not much comfort for the passengers on this mornings MAN - SSH ..... delayed until tomorrow.
The a/c in questiom (EB) went into the Mytravel hangar at around 21:00 on 30th for maintance. I dont know what happened while it was in there but they found something very wrong.

This has been there first major deley for a while, last year it was every week. As trans has said, with the summer season in full swing another a/c is very hard to come by, Travelcity Direct an airline sometime used by Flyjet are also 24 hours behind atm...

As for SilverJet just wanting the aoc, i think thats rubbish, why take an airline in debt and having a 'Bad name' aloing side a new all business carrier?

As for making cash, Fje1 is the person to talk to.

Name change (Bronzejet)
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