Thomas Cook
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This shower were recently tasked to take a detachment to a Nato exercise in Turkey but couldnt find an aircraft..Either from core or surge, so in terms of the MOD deal they had to pay to fly them all back and forth on scheduled civvy flights...not cheap 
Good luck to TCX they might yet need it
Good luck to TCX they might yet need it
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What a bizarre statement. Voyager is tasked by the MoD, they control where they want the aircraft to go, so one would assume this planning activity takes place some weeks before the flight, after of couse the MoD are appraised of the aircraft available. With the limited Voyagers (is it 8?) at the moment, it;s fair to assume they can't be everywhere at the same time, there being the need to charter in until the full A330 fleet is available. Who'flying the TCX aircraft? Air Tanker crew or TCX? Scheduled, regular flights I'd imagine? Aircraft allocated, crew allocated... no problem
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WOW! it was such a balls up that the MoD were just lucky enough to book airline seats for a whole det the day before they were due to fly.... er, no... block seat booking with an airline = pre planned. The MoD have a copy of available aircraft. The MoD look at the flight requirements and select wether to use Voyager or Charter in based on aircraft available. This process happens months in advance. If you're saying Voyager couldnt deliver, I suspect it was a last minute task and the 8 aircraft were all busy on other tasks, as determined by DSCOM. Otherwise, the charter/seat bookings would have been pre planned by the controlling authority (cost is also considered, a whole aircraft or a few seats). Air Tanker have litte control about where they fly to, it's all decided by the MoD and Air Tanker offer whats available. If it was a c*ck up, 99% it would be an MoD c*ck up for not checking the availability against requirement. (yeah, I did spend 10 years at Abbey Wood doing this way before Voyager was on the cards)
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All 3 Thomas Cook 767's to go to Condor permanently the end of summer 2014 - now confirmed:
Thomas Cook Airlines to retire last three B767s this summer - ch-aviation.com
Thomas Cook Airlines to retire last three B767s this summer - ch-aviation.com
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Well I apologsie for that, just the word 'permanently' suggests that they will not return to MAN for 2015 but they evidently are according to the article. Maybe they will operate from Manchester for summer 2015 on behalf on Condor? Has been suggested that Condor want a bigger MAN operation than 1 757 as per this summer.
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I was thinking the same....
Thomas Cook Airlines UK (MT, Manchester Int'l) will transfer its last three remaining B767-300(ER)s - G-DAJC (msn 27206), G-TCCA (msn 27205), and G-TCCB (msn 28865) - to fellow Thomas Cook Group partner, Condor (DE, Frankfurt Int'l), at the end of the current summer season with the aircraft scheduled to operate for the German sister carrier all winter. Condor had previously already wet-leased two B767s from Thomas Cook Airlines UK and will use all three aircraft during the next winter season. According to Condor's Head of Communications, Johannes Winter, the aircraft will however return to the United Kingdom again for summer 2015.
As it currently stands, the British scheduled carrier's fleet will consist of three A320-200s, eleven A321-200s, five A330-200s, ten B757-200s, and two B757-300s.
Thomas Cook Airlines UK (MT, Manchester Int'l) will transfer its last three remaining B767-300(ER)s - G-DAJC (msn 27206), G-TCCA (msn 27205), and G-TCCB (msn 28865) - to fellow Thomas Cook Group partner, Condor (DE, Frankfurt Int'l), at the end of the current summer season with the aircraft scheduled to operate for the German sister carrier all winter. Condor had previously already wet-leased two B767s from Thomas Cook Airlines UK and will use all three aircraft during the next winter season. According to Condor's Head of Communications, Johannes Winter, the aircraft will however return to the United Kingdom again for summer 2015.
As it currently stands, the British scheduled carrier's fleet will consist of three A320-200s, eleven A321-200s, five A330-200s, ten B757-200s, and two B757-300s.
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The TCX UK 767's have a different door config to the Condor ones that dont fit the Condor 3 class interior.
As has been said many times the 767's will operate for Condor in the winter & TCX in the Summer.
As has been said many times the 767's will operate for Condor in the winter & TCX in the Summer.
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NCL - SSH
I have had a email off thomas cook saying the flight im on (1st October) to SSH is an hour longer ! Anyone know why ? Seems like fuel stop but its currently not fuel stopping and hasnt all summer