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Can anybody shed any light; bmi told me it was due to 'technical problems'?
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yes the GLA flts have been canx of recent, this will be due to the loads IF there is a problem with one of the a/c during the day.
If an a/c is tech for the day rather than pax get screwed over totally (i.e. stranded somewhere where they dont live etc) the flight that gets canx will be the one where the flight can be combined with a later service or alternative destination.
This makes perfect sense and although not best fot the passenger it does get them back to where they need/want to be.
It would make no sense to canx a flight where you cant get all the pax on the flight home that day. A good reason why the GLA keeps getting picked on is because there are x4 a day and normally all pax on the canx flight can be accomodated.
One thing that does annoy me though, all though a cancellation, really it tends to be only a 3 hour delay until the next flight. You would be amazed at pax responses if a flight is canx "yeah but you canx the flight" - reply "yes but really your only delayed 3hrs" As soon as the word canx is mentioned they automatically seem to think COMPENSATION! - and what they can get with the EU regs - unfortunately and thankfully not a lot!
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If an a/c is tech for the day rather than pax get screwed over totally (i.e. stranded somewhere where they dont live etc) the flight that gets canx will be the one where the flight can be combined with a later service or alternative destination.
This makes perfect sense and although not best fot the passenger it does get them back to where they need/want to be.
It would make no sense to canx a flight where you cant get all the pax on the flight home that day. A good reason why the GLA keeps getting picked on is because there are x4 a day and normally all pax on the canx flight can be accomodated.
One thing that does annoy me though, all though a cancellation, really it tends to be only a 3 hour delay until the next flight. You would be amazed at pax responses if a flight is canx "yeah but you canx the flight" - reply "yes but really your only delayed 3hrs" As soon as the word canx is mentioned they automatically seem to think COMPENSATION! - and what they can get with the EU regs - unfortunately and thankfully not a lot!
regards as ever
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Most certainly was due to 'tech problems'.TOYF has flap damage that Mr Boeing won't allow so until those in Seattle ok a repair,it's sitting with a flap missing in the shed!
The easiest option if loads allow is to combine with the EDI flt or canx.With more than one rotation to GLA its then possible to get the pax oop north-unfortunately later.This was a philosophy used when it was mainline with the Fokker fleet out of EMA too.
FAO flybmi - whilst I am only too aware how frustrating your canx/delay was,I am sure you would rather get there later but safely on a serviceable and safe aircraft.
The easiest option if loads allow is to combine with the EDI flt or canx.With more than one rotation to GLA its then possible to get the pax oop north-unfortunately later.This was a philosophy used when it was mainline with the Fokker fleet out of EMA too.
FAO flybmi - whilst I am only too aware how frustrating your canx/delay was,I am sure you would rather get there later but safely on a serviceable and safe aircraft.
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Knock - MAN came into EMA with pax who were bussed to MAN. This so the aircraft could be used on a EDI or GLA rotation. I understand that in addition to the flap damage aircraft another one was AOG. The flap damage repair may take time to resolve as the aircraft was fresh off check. WW could do with some decent spare aircraft to support the operation, think they are using Titan today 
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I know when it comes to replacing the WW fleet, it will be between A319s and B737s. I think that they should start thinking about taking the 73Gs that EZY are laying off. The 737 has served WW well, I would like it to continue.
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The problem with the ex-EasyJet Boeing 737-700s, is that these are in very high demand from airlines far more influential than bmibaby, as the waiting time for off-the-factory 737s is about two years. Gol, Southwest and Air Berlin, are amongst the low-cost airlines fighting to pick up these EZY aircraft once EasyJet get more A319s. The waiting time for an Airbus is a little less, but I think these aircraft are to be the exclusive domain of bmi mainline. One option being looked at is the Embraer E-Jet family after a successful promotional tour by an E-190 to EMA a few months ago, but whilst more efficient, it would take away significant capacity. As with all things bmibaby, I think it's just a case of wait and see.
The problem with the ex-EasyJet Boeing 737-700s, is that these are in very high demand from airlines far more influential than bmibaby, as the waiting time for off-the-factory 737s is about two years. Gol, Southwest and Air Berlin, are amongst the low-cost airlines fighting to pick up these EZY aircraft once EasyJet get more A319s. The waiting time for an Airbus is a little less, but I think these aircraft are to be the exclusive domain of bmi mainline. One option being looked at is the Embraer E-Jet family after a successful promotional tour by an E-190 to EMA a few months ago, but whilst more efficient, it would take away significant capacity. As with all things bmibaby, I think it's just a case of wait and see.
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Little pier update as of Friday, the roof was on when I was called in on Saturday, but as you see they have started roofing it in this shot 
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anyone got any info on how the flights to Kenya are looking sales wise???? see they are being operated by 767-300 equipment.
Also, ive heard of a new cargo operator operating to EMA . rumour has it of MAS Cargo??? anyone else heard this?
Any new Long Haul services in the pipline????
anyone seen how many gates are going to be on the pier????? and is it just gonna be for the new apron or is there gonna be gates both sides???
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Also, ive heard of a new cargo operator operating to EMA . rumour has it of MAS Cargo??? anyone else heard this?
Any new Long Haul services in the pipline????
anyone seen how many gates are going to be on the pier????? and is it just gonna be for the new apron or is there gonna be gates both sides???
Regards
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Airliners are reporting that after the flybe/BA Connect merger that EMA could become a base or a focus city. Does anybody know if EMA is being considered or if flybe management have been to EMA? If you ask me they have enough on their plate without launching new bases, and we already have enough based airlines.
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more airlines the better! thats good that it will have gates both sides because it allow more aircraft to park over on the far side.
anyone got a summer 07 timetable?
owen
anyone got a summer 07 timetable?
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Are they going to re-line part of the current pax apron in order to have aircraft park up to the pier that way.
PLUS: It is 18 years to the day since the Kegworth Air Disaster, in which a British Midlands Boeing 737-400 hit the M1 embankment on approach to EMA.
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PLUS: It is 18 years to the day since the Kegworth Air Disaster, in which a British Midlands Boeing 737-400 hit the M1 embankment on approach to EMA.
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I'm not sure that I fully agree, I think there is a strong potential that if flybe did arrive at EMA, it would result in a bad fare war which bmibaby in particular probably couldn't afford to fight long in. EasyJet competed with bmibaby for a while on the EMA-Scotland flights, but there was far too much capacity and they quickly retreated to where they could make money flying to the continent. bmibaby have their own market on these flights, and still manage to keep fares pretty low but planes pretty full on these routes. Factor in competition from BHX and now more importantly than ever from the train, and it just seems it would be wasted planes, fuel and tarmac to have another airline trotting up and down the country on this route.
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Hmmm not so sure about having gates both sides of the new pier. Where the 30's are there's a blast fence in the way, a large equipment park, and is too close to the alpha taxiway to route pax behind the parking area.
If they were to do it, the only way to do it would to have the crossings like on the front of stands at the moment (8-17), however there's no room at the top of the 30's stands. If you put it infront of the equipment park, you'll need to remove the access road infront, and if you put it the other side of the road it'll take up too much room on the stands, would make it hard to board a/c with all the vehicles moving up in that corner. Also you could only board one flight at a time.
I'll try to take a pic to explain what I mean. It's hard to explain if you don't know it !!
If they were to do it, the only way to do it would to have the crossings like on the front of stands at the moment (8-17), however there's no room at the top of the 30's stands. If you put it infront of the equipment park, you'll need to remove the access road infront, and if you put it the other side of the road it'll take up too much room on the stands, would make it hard to board a/c with all the vehicles moving up in that corner. Also you could only board one flight at a time.
I'll try to take a pic to explain what I mean. It's hard to explain if you don't know it !!
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I could see these slots being better utilised for somewhere like DSA which currently lacks a domestic operation where flybe are currently only flying from BHD, or maybe their new base at CWL. EMA simply doesn't have the market for two low-cost airlines on the EMA-Scotland routes, though flybe are a very competitive airline, so if they did arrive, I could see them really kicking bmibaby into shape. The two airlines co-exist I suppose up the road at BHX with their own business models, so it's probably worth watching.
A-Net also suggesting Eastern's ABZ route not doing too well. Is this the cost of the tickets or is the market just not there? I could see WW doing very well with a twice daily flight (one early morning, one early evening) on this route like we're doing at BHX.
A-Net also suggesting Eastern's ABZ route not doing too well. Is this the cost of the tickets or is the market just not there? I could see WW doing very well with a twice daily flight (one early morning, one early evening) on this route like we're doing at BHX.