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Old 9th Feb 2007, 20:16
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Grrr

I see that Flyglobespan are going to launch a Stansted - Larnaca service going 6 weekly for summer 2007.
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XL now have a sat flight bookable on the LTN-LCA route from May, so now 3 x weekly. MON are 3 x weekly from 26 Mar, increasing to 4 from July. This remains at this capacity throughout W07/W08 as well.

MON also have Almeria at 4 x weekly for next winter, continuing on from the summer.
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Old 10th Feb 2007, 22:02
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Grrr

So when I visit Luton this summer armed with my Ian Allan Civil Aircraft Markings, a ruler, pencil and binoculars, will I witness any new business apart form the few additional routes already announced? I am planning to start off in April and hopefully, traffic permitting arrive in July, subject to road improvements. I anticipate making Caddington in 15 minutes, but beyond this is in the laps of the Highways Agency. The Salvation Army Soup kitchen adjacent to Capability Green might come in handy?

I guess an airport so close to one of the biggest and dynamic cities in the world, must be beating off prospective new airlines and routes with a rather enormous broom?

Or is that broom being used by both ACDL and Luton Borough Council to beat up each other?

When was the last year Luton encountered ZERO or NEGATIVE growth, my guess is 1995 pre the Orange Revolution?
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Old 10th Feb 2007, 22:47
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I guess an airport so close to one of the biggest and dynamic cities in the world
Milton Keynes?
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Old 11th Feb 2007, 07:15
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So when I visit Luton this summer armed with my Ian Allan Civil Aircraft Markings, a ruler, pencil and binoculars, will I witness any new business apart form the few additional routes already announced?
Well good question. I recall reading a trade article about November last year, (the name of which escapes me) in which, amongst other things, were comments by the Route Dev guy at Luton. He said that 17 routes were announced for 2006, and he expected at least the same, if not more for 2007These might well include not only more longhaul to the eastern US but also to the Far East. Right!!!!

Well we have had some announcements from existing carriers such as MON & Thomsonfly & Wizz(Bucharest) & that's about it. Of course Silverjet has now launched, but routes from new airlines is not happening, and we all know why.

Routes have also been lost for 2007, such as Bratislava,Stockholm VST, IOM, Lorient & Newquay to name but a few.

On the Silverjet front, for possible expansion, in addition to IAD & JNB which have been mentioned previously, apparently the Caribbean & China are possibles for 2008. No doubt for the Olympics in the case of the later.

So for 2007, well...........
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Old 11th Feb 2007, 08:12
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Or is that broom being used by both ACDL and Luton Borough Council (LBC) to beat up each other?
ACDL is setting some extremely challenging financial targets and spending conditions on LLAO (more so than would have happened had the 'new' 3000-metre runway airport plan been adopted). LBC is is continuing to play hardball and is becoming an impediment to any progress supporting only development of the existing hill-top site (a policy probably based on a review of some Council planning documents drawn up in 1937 ). To provide any significant improvement to the existing Luton infastructure, further low-cost fixed-price deals with new airlines where the contract price and charges are sufficiently low to beat BAA's cross-subsidised operation at Stansted just don't generate the necessary income for LLAO and thus, for ACDL. So, thanks to LBC's intransigent attitude and short-sighted policy, Luton's recent impressive growth is in danger of stalling and may ultimately, go into to decline.
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Old 11th Feb 2007, 10:49
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ACDL is setting some extremely challenging financial targets and spending conditions on LLAO (more so than would have happened had the 'new' 3000-metre runway airport plan been adopted).


Isn't that the real point at issue? The proposal for a 3,000m runway and a new terminal was too ambitious and would have created a new airport alongside the existing one. More significantly it would have been outside the current concession area, so LBC would lose its £12 million income.

Until someone can resolve that aspect, there doesn't seem to be much prospect of any new agreement. I'm not trying to defend LBC, but it's surely unfair to heap all the blame on them for holding things up.
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so LBC would lose its £12 million income
You're right. But if the Council carries on like this, it's likely to see its income from the Airport start to dwindle. There's a "break clause" in the Concession Agreement in (I think) 2014 and so ACDL could simply walk away if things don't work out the way it wants. The trouble with the Council is that is doesn't seem able to grasp the basic commercial rule that if a company is to invest heavily in any project, it's got to make sense and that means getting an acceptable return on its investment over a realistic timeframe. Luton's Project 2030 would have done just that which is why it was a definite goer. Pouring the vast sums needed into the existing site just doen't stack up with the remaining length of the Concession term. If it wants a flourishing airport providing local jobs, boosting the local economy and providing a sizeable income for the Town, the Council needs to start thinking 21st Century commercial instead of wallowing in 1970s local government.
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Grrr

Provisional Dec 2006 figures:

Number of flights during Dec 2006 was 5850, down 2.3% on Dec 2005 (no Eagle Flight Training & Police Helicopter).

Total tinminal passengers for Dec 2006 was 659,567, up 0.7% year on year.

Rolling yearly total 9414829 passengers.
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Old 15th Feb 2007, 06:01
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Second airport death

After the recent death of a Polish man of Hypothermia outside the terminal a 20 year old American student has died after running across the tarmac and up a flight of stairs to get out of Monday's heavy rain. http://www.unionleader.com/article.a...6-a5d9065ddb1f
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Old 15th Feb 2007, 22:04
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Question LTN closed?

Newsnight (BBC) just reported LTN closed and diverts sent to STN.

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Old 15th Feb 2007, 22:10
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BBC ticker says:

Luton Airport evacuated and closed after bomb scare. More soon.
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Old 15th Feb 2007, 22:40
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Police are examining a suspect car!! Pax terminal evacuated.
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Old 15th Feb 2007, 23:02
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FR3883 landed 10 minutes ago so presumably problem solved.

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Old 15th Feb 2007, 23:19
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Minor update - Controlled explosion (BBC)

BBC online is now reporting that a controlled explosion has been carried out.

No Departures, some arrivals unaffected. I am not sure how arriving PAX are being processed with the terminal shut.
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Old 15th Feb 2007, 23:39
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I am not sure how arriving PAX are being processed with the terminal shut.
Probably about as badly as they are normally.
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Old 16th Feb 2007, 06:55
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Wonder how many days it took airport security to spot the car parked by the terminal? A couple of weeks ago it took all night for them to find a corpse that had laid by the entrance to the terminal.

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Old 16th Feb 2007, 08:10
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Surely you could see the trees for miles?
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Old 16th Feb 2007, 09:43
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As one of the Pax finding himself in Stansted What I want to know is why did the Sleazy Jet captain announce to the crago that a similar incident had happened a Gatwick and that airport was closed also?
It was impressive to count five on approach and one on the runway. Well done to all at Stanstead who have to change up a gear.
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Old 16th Feb 2007, 13:45
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I was on MON 075 to Luton. About 45 minutes from landing the captain declared that we would be diverting to Gatwick due to a controlled explosion at Luton, but aircraft due in 10 mins after us were continuing to land at Luton. Bit of a joke really, did it really warrant the closure of the airfield?
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