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yep agree, and only a few people are relocating to luton from Flyjet HQ.
EA - Currently flying out of Newcastle
EB - Is havng a well earnt rest in Manchester.
EC- will leave Manchester 10:30 thursday morning to Newcastle and preform ACE,TFS,LPA.
Winter 2006
At the start of December B757 A/C EA will depart and commence the longhaul route's planned until Arpil 2007.
B757 EB will return to Newcastle and commence flights thorughout the winter.
EC B767 will shortly be recieving its cabin refit for delivery to the Silverjet fleet.
EA - Currently flying out of Newcastle
EB - Is havng a well earnt rest in Manchester.
EC- will leave Manchester 10:30 thursday morning to Newcastle and preform ACE,TFS,LPA.
Winter 2006
At the start of December B757 A/C EA will depart and commence the longhaul route's planned until Arpil 2007.
B757 EB will return to Newcastle and commence flights thorughout the winter.
EC B767 will shortly be recieving its cabin refit for delivery to the Silverjet fleet.
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Only a few people are moving to LTN, that is because most of them are leaving.
Another refit for EC, I have heared of pouring money down the drain but as a previous poster said, that aircraft is one big cash sucking machine.
One question to be asked is if £2 million was wasted on EC why couldn't these funds be put into the 2 B757's, refit their cabin and IFE and improve FJE's reputation?
Are the long haul routes to ATQ with Satnum Singh's agency??
Another refit for EC, I have heared of pouring money down the drain but as a previous poster said, that aircraft is one big cash sucking machine.
One question to be asked is if £2 million was wasted on EC why couldn't these funds be put into the 2 B757's, refit their cabin and IFE and improve FJE's reputation?
Are the long haul routes to ATQ with Satnum Singh's agency??
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EC- 2 Million was not lost... Due to circumstances with the aircraft, no money had to be paid in anyway by Flyjet. And is planned to end service with Flyjet 26th November 2006.
Longhaul routes EA:
Destinations for the first winter are from COPENHAGEN to:
TUE, THU & SAT – Ras Al Khaimah, United Arab Emirates
TUE – Bangkok, Thailand - fortnightly
TUE – Goa, India – fortnightly
THU & SAT – Phuket, Thailand
EB:
TUE – Tenerife
WED – Fuerteventura
THU – Arrecife
FRI – Tenerife
SAT – Las Palmas
SUN – Sharm El Sheik
Some flights vary and will change destinations on certain programs EG WED will be FUE and then PFO.
Longhaul routes EA:
Destinations for the first winter are from COPENHAGEN to:
TUE, THU & SAT – Ras Al Khaimah, United Arab Emirates
TUE – Bangkok, Thailand - fortnightly
TUE – Goa, India – fortnightly
THU & SAT – Phuket, Thailand
EB:
TUE – Tenerife
WED – Fuerteventura
THU – Arrecife
FRI – Tenerife
SAT – Las Palmas
SUN – Sharm El Sheik
Some flights vary and will change destinations on certain programs EG WED will be FUE and then PFO.
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So, Flyjet are back to 2 A/C from the end of November, Oh and while EB is 'Resting' in MAN does it have a slot to enter the hangar and have about a 3 month service? 
Any ideas FJE1 about flights out of Manchester for 07? As ive not heard anything, its all been NCL.
Any ideas FJE1 about flights out of Manchester for 07? As ive not heard anything, its all been NCL.
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Regarding EC and no monies paid, so who paid Manchester for the parking at MAN which several other posters have commented is not cheap and for the "refit" at ATC Lasham.
Futher more will the B757's have seats removed for the "long haul". Copenhagen to Thailand with a full load on B757 would require 2 techstops.
I'm no having a pop at Flyjet as such, it just seems rediculous that all the man hours, money and sweat to get a B767-200 into service and all its done is a few IT flights from NCL.
Futher more will the B757's have seats removed for the "long haul". Copenhagen to Thailand with a full load on B757 would require 2 techstops.
I'm no having a pop at Flyjet as such, it just seems rediculous that all the man hours, money and sweat to get a B767-200 into service and all its done is a few IT flights from NCL.
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EB is to return to Newcastle to commence the winter program there as I have stated.
EA will have seats removed for a 219 seat Config.
EC is still in the standard config and has to preform these "Shake Down" sectors before it enters service with Silverjet. So this is why its having its few" IT" flights.
The refit is at Silverjets cost not Flyjet.
The problems with EC where not an issue until it was fully inspected after delivery from the leaser. Therefore it could not carry passengers and needed alot of "MAN HOURS" to correct this. Minor defects and a new engine.
As for Summer 2007 MANCHESTER
MON - MAN-DLM-MAN..MAN-LPA-MAN
TUE - MAN-HER-MAN..MAN-TFS-MAN
WED - MAN-PFO-MAN
THU - MAN-SKG-MAN..MAN-ACE-MAN
FRI - MAN-DLM-MAN..MAN-CFU-MAN
SAT - MAN-SSH-MAN..MAN-RHO-MAN
SUN - MAN-LCA-MAN
subject to minor changes.
EA will have seats removed for a 219 seat Config.
EC is still in the standard config and has to preform these "Shake Down" sectors before it enters service with Silverjet. So this is why its having its few" IT" flights.
The refit is at Silverjets cost not Flyjet.
The problems with EC where not an issue until it was fully inspected after delivery from the leaser. Therefore it could not carry passengers and needed alot of "MAN HOURS" to correct this. Minor defects and a new engine.
As for Summer 2007 MANCHESTER
MON - MAN-DLM-MAN..MAN-LPA-MAN
TUE - MAN-HER-MAN..MAN-TFS-MAN
WED - MAN-PFO-MAN
THU - MAN-SKG-MAN..MAN-ACE-MAN
FRI - MAN-DLM-MAN..MAN-CFU-MAN
SAT - MAN-SSH-MAN..MAN-RHO-MAN
SUN - MAN-LCA-MAN
subject to minor changes.
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All sounding very positive for FJE at the moment, lets hope it positivity and profitability increase, as someone has said we have the potential to be an excellent charter carrier - an independant one!!
One thing, for summer 07 will EA be put back into normal config or left at 219?
One thing, for summer 07 will EA be put back into normal config or left at 219?
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Thank you fje1, good news that flyjet will still run out of manchester but now i am alittle worried.
Mainly because of the bad tech problems that EB and EA have had this year are now not going to get better, and that excel (who help flyjet alot this summer) are letting go there 2 757's to flyglobespan in March.
Im sorry to say this but you cant expect 17/18 year old aircraft to keep the pace of modern day flying.
My only hope is that Flyjet didnt have the money to fix problems when they accrued, so they got worse then took longer to fix; were as now Silverjet are behind them with alot of cash and hopefully problems will be fixed quickley rather than left.
All that said i hope Flyjet have a great year with few delays.
Mainly because of the bad tech problems that EB and EA have had this year are now not going to get better, and that excel (who help flyjet alot this summer) are letting go there 2 757's to flyglobespan in March.
Im sorry to say this but you cant expect 17/18 year old aircraft to keep the pace of modern day flying.
My only hope is that Flyjet didnt have the money to fix problems when they accrued, so they got worse then took longer to fix; were as now Silverjet are behind them with alot of cash and hopefully problems will be fixed quickley rather than left.
All that said i hope Flyjet have a great year with few delays.
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Im sorry to say this but you cant expect 17/18 year old aircraft to keep the pace of modern day flying.
My only hope is that Flyjet didnt have the money to fix problems when they accrued, so they got worse then took longer to fix; were as now Silverjet are behind them with alot of cash and hopefully problems will be fixed quickley rather than left.
My only hope is that Flyjet didnt have the money to fix problems when they accrued, so they got worse then took longer to fix; were as now Silverjet are behind them with alot of cash and hopefully problems will be fixed quickley rather than left.
Hopefully as you say, if the money is there to keep them going, their reputation may improve!
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Have FJE picked up any extra winter work to boost operations and ultimately profits? Obviously CPH work is good, the guys up in NCL seem to be keeping the operation going at the minute, but FJE usually pick up alot of subcontract and extra work. Maybe the Hajj?????
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It appears that LGW base will close down by April, MAN & NCL will close when the 757's go back by the end of next year. Silverjet got what they wanted the AOC and a cheap 767 to get them started. Flyjet purpose served now bye bye Flyjet
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Lease end does not necessarily mean base closure
Sunny Girl. I think you will find that your assumption that bases will close as a result the a/c leases is incorrect. 
Have you considered the possibility that newer 757s will be leased in place of the existing aircraft.
Leases coming to an end (by definition) happens all the time. I don't remember the large Charter Carrier I flew for closing bases beacuse the leases ended. The result was that I found myself at the controls of of brand new and nearly new 757s with Pegasus FMCs & double GPS etc etc. in replacement of the older jets. Dan Air did not close when the leases were up on its Comets.
I shall not stop drving when my car needs replacing.
WAIT & SEE!
Have you considered the possibility that newer 757s will be leased in place of the existing aircraft.
Leases coming to an end (by definition) happens all the time. I don't remember the large Charter Carrier I flew for closing bases beacuse the leases ended. The result was that I found myself at the controls of of brand new and nearly new 757s with Pegasus FMCs & double GPS etc etc. in replacement of the older jets. Dan Air did not close when the leases were up on its Comets.
I shall not stop drving when my car needs replacing.
WAIT & SEE!
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Agree. But what would be nice and good management is if the present management actually formally stated their intentions. Therefore people would be put at ease regarding their jobs and be given ample time to look for another if needed.
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Flyjet must make a profit by the end of summer 2007 otherwise why would silverjet want to pay for something they do not want in the first place.
If Flyjet does make a profit then newer aircraft may be the answer.
Everyone has to pull together at the airports to make this possible from cleaners,caterers and crew, EVERYONE
Where someone did say that Excel Airways helped flyjet out alot in summer 2006 this is true but may I add when Excel had problems Flyjet did help out.
All airlines have problems and sometimes have to ask another airline for help.
Yes EA and EB are getting on abit but are still not half way through their recommended life span.
The main problem is the LACK of capital within the business that was being spent on the essentials rather than crap.
So to keep NCL and MAN in business Flyjet MUST make a profit.
And the airline has to be treated with more respect otherwise it does not have a chance in making this goal.
Flyjet does deserve this chance as its never had any luxurues and has made it through almost 4 years of struggling.
The crews are great and don't deserve to be laid off, they are and have been put through alot to help the airline where this would not happen in a bigger airline.
If Flyjet does make a profit then newer aircraft may be the answer.
Everyone has to pull together at the airports to make this possible from cleaners,caterers and crew, EVERYONE
Where someone did say that Excel Airways helped flyjet out alot in summer 2006 this is true but may I add when Excel had problems Flyjet did help out.
All airlines have problems and sometimes have to ask another airline for help.
Yes EA and EB are getting on abit but are still not half way through their recommended life span.
The main problem is the LACK of capital within the business that was being spent on the essentials rather than crap.
So to keep NCL and MAN in business Flyjet MUST make a profit.
And the airline has to be treated with more respect otherwise it does not have a chance in making this goal.
Flyjet does deserve this chance as its never had any luxurues and has made it through almost 4 years of struggling.
The crews are great and don't deserve to be laid off, they are and have been put through alot to help the airline where this would not happen in a bigger airline.
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The 757s both go back off lease to AWAS next November. NCL + MAN operations will definitely stop then, and could even stop before that if the charter flying and remaining period of the 757 leases were transferred to someone else like Excel.
I would not hold out false hope here and would suggest that you push for some definitive answers - it does sound as though those at NCL + MAN are being strung along. I think you will find that the decision has already been taken.
I would not hold out false hope here and would suggest that you push for some definitive answers - it does sound as though those at NCL + MAN are being strung along. I think you will find that the decision has already been taken.
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Well what else can be said, apart from 'typical flyjet'. New management and nothing changes!!!! There is potential here and they can't even see it. I feel alot of crew and office staff will be saying 
very shortly to management.
very shortly to management.
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lgwechobravo
People both inside and outside the company have been saying that for a long long time.
Flyjet had amazing potential and could have become a top notch airline but it was let down by its management, wrong people in the wrong jobs and truly awful operations and commercial decisions / agreements.
Best of luck to the crews / ops staff
People both inside and outside the company have been saying that for a long long time.
Flyjet had amazing potential and could have become a top notch airline but it was let down by its management, wrong people in the wrong jobs and truly awful operations and commercial decisions / agreements.
Best of luck to the crews / ops staff
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To be honest guys, as fje1 says, its all down to what happens this year, profit then flyjet will move forward, no profit then the 757 lease will run out and that will be that.
Flyjet have a chance this year, no good saying ,o the mangement is bad, because i dont believe it is. The problem this last year has been the a/c and having no capital to fix therm properly, nothing more.
As iive said in a previous post, with SJ money behind them to fix the problems with the a/c faster there shouldnt be the long deleys and thus putting 2 sets, sometimes 4 sets of passengers in hotels i.e alot of cash.
I just hope they keep up with the service on the a/c's and things will be fine.
GL Flyjet
Flyjet have a chance this year, no good saying ,o the mangement is bad, because i dont believe it is. The problem this last year has been the a/c and having no capital to fix therm properly, nothing more.
As iive said in a previous post, with SJ money behind them to fix the problems with the a/c faster there shouldnt be the long deleys and thus putting 2 sets, sometimes 4 sets of passengers in hotels i.e alot of cash.
I just hope they keep up with the service on the a/c's and things will be fine.
GL Flyjet