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Anyone with any news as to what the plans are for the London Gatwick flights ? JFK ATL CVG
All gone very quite since Open Skies ?
Are they going to LHR or are they staying ?
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All gone very quite since Open Skies ?
Are they going to LHR or are they staying ?
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LHR etc
Rumours on other forums is that there is more to come re International
routes for 2008.
Not a particularly bold statement really considering the Heathrow routes
have yet to be announced.
However there are still at least 3 more 75W routes to be announced
(if they intend to fly them all across) or 8 if they end up with 15 (another rumour). Lisbon & Lyon to JFK have been mentioned again as new routes.
As for Heathrow/Gatwick, nothing has officially being announced re the
acquisition of slots and not much in the way of rumour. One post mentioned three slot pairs for Heathrow had been obtained for 2 x ATL 1 x JFK but all speculation really.
There is so much going on with slots at the moment it makes your head spin, another rumour is that with Alitalia is trying to flog some for a bit
of quick cash. The rumour is that the LHR - MXP would take the hit.
However it has also been stated that these will go to the highest bidder
and not just SkyTeam members.
Pete
routes for 2008.
Not a particularly bold statement really considering the Heathrow routes
have yet to be announced.
However there are still at least 3 more 75W routes to be announced
(if they intend to fly them all across) or 8 if they end up with 15 (another rumour). Lisbon & Lyon to JFK have been mentioned again as new routes.
As for Heathrow/Gatwick, nothing has officially being announced re the
acquisition of slots and not much in the way of rumour. One post mentioned three slot pairs for Heathrow had been obtained for 2 x ATL 1 x JFK but all speculation really.
There is so much going on with slots at the moment it makes your head spin, another rumour is that with Alitalia is trying to flog some for a bit
of quick cash. The rumour is that the LHR - MXP would take the hit.
However it has also been stated that these will go to the highest bidder
and not just SkyTeam members.
Pete
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Air France/Delta Heathrow
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/200710...bs-uk-airfrance-delta-03c9bed.html
The announcement is in Paris tomorrow per several sources.
Rumours include: -
JFK-Orly with a 757
CDG - JFK is now showing as a 757 for next summer which is a downgrade.
The big rumour is Air France Heathrow to LAX on the 773. The article hints at the route but not the type.
This would be interesting having one long-haul plane based at Heathrow
Some still think that this is unlikely but Delta are supposed to be keen but want the 777 on the route and they apparently they have non spare.
JFK - Lyon is rumoured again with a 757.
JFK-AMS showing still as a 767 next summer but was rumoured to be downgraded to the 757.
Another report speculates nine Skyteam transatlantic routes to be
announced tomorrow from Heathrow????
Whatever happens it should be an interesting day.
Pete
The announcement is in Paris tomorrow per several sources.
Rumours include: -
JFK-Orly with a 757
CDG - JFK is now showing as a 757 for next summer which is a downgrade.
The big rumour is Air France Heathrow to LAX on the 773. The article hints at the route but not the type.
This would be interesting having one long-haul plane based at Heathrow
Some still think that this is unlikely but Delta are supposed to be keen but want the 777 on the route and they apparently they have non spare.
JFK - Lyon is rumoured again with a 757.
JFK-AMS showing still as a 767 next summer but was rumoured to be downgraded to the 757.
Another report speculates nine Skyteam transatlantic routes to be
announced tomorrow from Heathrow????
Whatever happens it should be an interesting day.
Pete
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Where are the slots coming from?
I'vae always assumed the KLM services from Rotterdam and Eindhoven were mostly there to keep slots warm and would be switched to LCY once open skies was agreed.
I'vae always assumed the KLM services from Rotterdam and Eindhoven were mostly there to keep slots warm and would be switched to LCY once open skies was agreed.
Other than that, service was pretty good for an American carrier and as said earlier load factor was around 100%
Even when my lugage went AWOL ATL-IAH, it was delivered to my hotel within five hours, even although we were on the last DL flght of the night. Nice to wake up to the news that your luggage is waiting for you at reception.
My gripes with Delta is that A) they pulled the EDI-ATL service, allegedly for the winter, despite having a load factor~70%, promising to introduce an EDI-JFK service in April & run the ATL service in parallel June-October. B) The EDI-ATL service has now been pulled permanently.
But I guess that's the way the cookie crumbles - I'm quite happy to fly DL anyday.
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Some questions for our friends across the pond.
1. With this merger i can see some conflicts regarding a/c types. Delta predominantly Boeing and NW Airbus, what can you see happening?
2. Are they going to reduce the number of flights that they both offer?
3. Will they reduce the flight deck crews
4. Who is actually going to buy the released a/c in a time of a depressed market?
1. With this merger i can see some conflicts regarding a/c types. Delta predominantly Boeing and NW Airbus, what can you see happening?
2. Are they going to reduce the number of flights that they both offer?
3. Will they reduce the flight deck crews
4. Who is actually going to buy the released a/c in a time of a depressed market?
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Delta massive International expansion 2009
Taken from a.net, their website and yahoo.
All for 2009 but not daily in some instances: -
"SLC-NRT
JFK-NRT
2nd daily ATL-NRT
NRT-SGN
ATL-DKR-NBO
ATL-DKR-CPT
ATL-SID-LAD
ATL-SID-ABV
ATL-SID-Malabo
JFK-LOS
JFK-GOT
JFK-VLC
JFK-ZRH
JFK-PRG
4 additional weekly flights JFK-TLV"
Some surprises and no new UK destinations but there was not any rumoured.
BHX & GLA to JFK has been mentioned but US Air probably killed off any
slight chance of BHX.
Some real surprises although the Cape Verde 75W mini hub has been known
a while now just not all the destinations.
JFK-PRG apparently runs on different days to CSA and Zurich is a 757!
Gothenburg has no competition but comments on this one would be
appreciated as it has surprised some and not rumoured. Valencia has
been mentioned as a possible route.
The Salt Lake Narita has raised a few eyebrows across the pond and it
is to be the A332. Jo'burg goes direct on the 77L, which is an upgrade.
WB - re your last post, not really gleaned too much on this other than
they will start mixing n matching DL & NW aircraft to each other routes
for "best fit" but that is hardly rocket science but off course will affect
crews as I am sure they have no A330 crew in salt Lake at present.
This mini hub in Cape Verde certainly sounds like "think outside the box"
but I suppose it is another way of expanding the African network.
No news of cuts other than SEA-LHR (ex NW) but I am sure there will be some.
Pete
All for 2009 but not daily in some instances: -
"SLC-NRT
JFK-NRT
2nd daily ATL-NRT
NRT-SGN
ATL-DKR-NBO
ATL-DKR-CPT
ATL-SID-LAD
ATL-SID-ABV
ATL-SID-Malabo
JFK-LOS
JFK-GOT
JFK-VLC
JFK-ZRH
JFK-PRG
4 additional weekly flights JFK-TLV"
Some surprises and no new UK destinations but there was not any rumoured.
BHX & GLA to JFK has been mentioned but US Air probably killed off any
slight chance of BHX.
Some real surprises although the Cape Verde 75W mini hub has been known
a while now just not all the destinations.
JFK-PRG apparently runs on different days to CSA and Zurich is a 757!
Gothenburg has no competition but comments on this one would be
appreciated as it has surprised some and not rumoured. Valencia has
been mentioned as a possible route.
The Salt Lake Narita has raised a few eyebrows across the pond and it
is to be the A332. Jo'burg goes direct on the 77L, which is an upgrade.
WB - re your last post, not really gleaned too much on this other than
they will start mixing n matching DL & NW aircraft to each other routes
for "best fit" but that is hardly rocket science but off course will affect
crews as I am sure they have no A330 crew in salt Lake at present.
This mini hub in Cape Verde certainly sounds like "think outside the box"
but I suppose it is another way of expanding the African network.
No news of cuts other than SEA-LHR (ex NW) but I am sure there will be some.
Pete
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Delta Commencing LAX - SYD
Good to see some more competition on trans pacific routes.
Delta to join Pacific route free-for-all
I believe the flight with operate as ATL-LAX-SYD-LAX-ATL
Delta to join Pacific route free-for-all
I believe the flight with operate as ATL-LAX-SYD-LAX-ATL
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DL Service to NBO Abruptly Canceled
DL was forced by the TSA to cancel its inaugural flight from ATL to NBO which had been scheduled for June 3rd.
Feds halt Delta's first direct flight to Nairobi | ajc.com
Maybe I am reading too much into this, but the abrupt cancellation so close to the start of service by the TSA, citing information that it has derived from several sources, means that there is/was a specific threat to flights into NBO by a US flag carrier. The lateness of the action implies that is is not a system issue with Kenyan security, but specific intelligence as it relates to the DL flight.
Needless to say, the Kenyans are miffed! As obstinate as the security agencies can be, I still feel that this action was NOT taken capriciously!
"Kenya summons US envoy over cancelled air link
NAIROBI, June 3, 2009 (AFP) - Kenya on Wednesday summoned the US ambassador over an 11th-hour cancellation by US carrier Delta Air Lines of a new direct link between Nairobi and Atlanta.
Foreign Affairs Minister Moses Wetangula summoned US ambassador Michael Ranneberger to express the government's reservations over the manner in which the flight was called off.
"The cancellation was not done in a manner expected of friends because they simply posted something on the website and it was up picked by many readers before we as a government were notified," Wetangula said.
Delta Air Lines announced Tuesday that direct flights from Nairobi to Atlanta, due to have started Wednesday, have been postponed indefinitely due to lack of Transport Security Administration (TSA) and US Government approval.
Wetangula regretted the flight was cancelled without formal notification to the Kenyan authorities of the reasons.
Ranneberger acknowledged Kenya's concerns but said that even the embassy in Nairobi did not have prior knowledge of the action.
"This is a postponement and we are hoping to get this back on track soon but I cannot confirm when," he said.
Wetangula said the cancellation was likely to dampen prospects of a recovery of the tourism sector, which last year took a 20 percent knock largely blamed on post-electoral violence and the global recession.
The cancellation "is covertly amounting to a travel advisory and it is going to hurt our tourism and therefore our economy," the minister protested.
Delta on Wednesday said the US Department of Homeland Security told it at the last minute that it would require more time to approve planned fights to Kenya and Liberia.
The Atlanta-based carrier is the only US airline to fly its own planes to Africa and was planning to launch flights to other destinations on the continent later this year."
Feds halt Delta's first direct flight to Nairobi | ajc.com
Maybe I am reading too much into this, but the abrupt cancellation so close to the start of service by the TSA, citing information that it has derived from several sources, means that there is/was a specific threat to flights into NBO by a US flag carrier. The lateness of the action implies that is is not a system issue with Kenyan security, but specific intelligence as it relates to the DL flight.
Needless to say, the Kenyans are miffed! As obstinate as the security agencies can be, I still feel that this action was NOT taken capriciously!
"Kenya summons US envoy over cancelled air link
NAIROBI, June 3, 2009 (AFP) - Kenya on Wednesday summoned the US ambassador over an 11th-hour cancellation by US carrier Delta Air Lines of a new direct link between Nairobi and Atlanta.
Foreign Affairs Minister Moses Wetangula summoned US ambassador Michael Ranneberger to express the government's reservations over the manner in which the flight was called off.
"The cancellation was not done in a manner expected of friends because they simply posted something on the website and it was up picked by many readers before we as a government were notified," Wetangula said.
Delta Air Lines announced Tuesday that direct flights from Nairobi to Atlanta, due to have started Wednesday, have been postponed indefinitely due to lack of Transport Security Administration (TSA) and US Government approval.
Wetangula regretted the flight was cancelled without formal notification to the Kenyan authorities of the reasons.
Ranneberger acknowledged Kenya's concerns but said that even the embassy in Nairobi did not have prior knowledge of the action.
"This is a postponement and we are hoping to get this back on track soon but I cannot confirm when," he said.
Wetangula said the cancellation was likely to dampen prospects of a recovery of the tourism sector, which last year took a 20 percent knock largely blamed on post-electoral violence and the global recession.
The cancellation "is covertly amounting to a travel advisory and it is going to hurt our tourism and therefore our economy," the minister protested.
Delta on Wednesday said the US Department of Homeland Security told it at the last minute that it would require more time to approve planned fights to Kenya and Liberia.
The Atlanta-based carrier is the only US airline to fly its own planes to Africa and was planning to launch flights to other destinations on the continent later this year."
I have been flying with DL over the past two weeks thru ATL, and surprised to see the start of this new service in the magazine. Appears to be no viable business case other than flying the flag 