Isle of Wight Airport
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Isle of Wight Airport
A new service to London
http://www.iwcp.co.uk/ViewArticle2.a...icleID=1643948
This is good news for the island and I wish it every success
MP
http://www.iwcp.co.uk/ViewArticle2.a...icleID=1643948
This is good news for the island and I wish it every success
MP
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How can a fully laden PA-31 operate out of either Sandown or Bembridge, it isn't possible. Also, how is it even possible that this airline will make money charging £75 a ticket? Let's say they have discounted landings at LCY, they'd probably be paying somewhere around the £300 a landing mark, plus fuel of lets say £90 for the 30 minute sector plus nav charges or somewhere around the £80 mark plus handling probably around the £140 mark (halve that for the one sector so lets say £70). The initial cost for one sector is somewhere around £610, split between 6 passengers that's £100 each......how can it possibly work!?!
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I also can't quite understand how any of these projects can work at all. The maths didn't work for Alpha One (nor did the website for that matter...) and it would take a brave man to start yet another domestic airline promising cheap fares from somewhere to London in a Cheiftan. I recall a service from Exeter into London a few years back that must have flown for all of a week or so before it disappeared - in a Cheiftan.
Good luck to all involved, but it seems like they're covering ground that many have tried to a thousand times before. If it was possible to make a small domestic service like this work it would have been done before, God knows I thought about it when I was doing my PPL in a PA28 years ago!
Feel guilty about giving them stick already mind...
Good luck to all involved, but it seems like they're covering ground that many have tried to a thousand times before. If it was possible to make a small domestic service like this work it would have been done before, God knows I thought about it when I was doing my PPL in a PA28 years ago!
Feel guilty about giving them stick already mind...
I'm tempted to say 'oh no not another one'.
Small aircraft can do well on these routes; Westward Airways used to run Exeter - Gatwick (then on to Rotterdam) using Titans and they apparently did very well.
Small aircraft can do well on these routes; Westward Airways used to run Exeter - Gatwick (then on to Rotterdam) using Titans and they apparently did very well.
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For an airline starting operations in August (presume it is 2006)it is impossible to get any information of Air Wight. No webs site, nothing on the Sandown Airport site about what would be a major news item, and no response to an e mail to Sandown Airport asking for information.
Perhaps its a virtual airline.
Perhaps its a virtual airline.
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This sounds a lot like British North West Airlines to me
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...=234179&page=2
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...=234179&page=2
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Minimum landing fee at London City is £500, plus mandatory handling fees, plus VAT. As far as I know there are no discounts for new operators "under a certain size of aircraft"
Running costs of the aircraft must be close to £700 per hour including crew.
It can't possibly be viable.
Running costs of the aircraft must be close to £700 per hour including crew.
It can't possibly be viable.
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Interesting one! May work. Depending on the fares for the ferry across then either the train or petrol down to london plus time taken compared to the flight cost - could be viable?? As long as Air Wight keep the fares realistic the route could work.
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Lets work on a very generous average load of 5 during the first three months using my previous figure of £610 operating costs per sector. Lets assume that the average fare is £110 one way, so with five PAX the airline takes £550 and the flight costs £610 to operate, that's a loss of £60. Now multiply that by four for each sector per day and we're taking a daily loss of £240. Now they operate five days a week so that is a weekly loss of £1200, now over the three month trial period that means that they stand to loose £14,400! That is based on a load factor of 84%. IT CANNOT POSSIBLY WORK! Why don't people do the maths before they play aeroplanes?
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Originally Posted by captainyonder
IT CANNOT POSSIBLY WORK! Why don't people do the maths before they play aeroplanes?
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A great idea to subsidise the travel, but when the weather takes a turn for the worse as happens in the winter, hotel bills will be rather astronomical! Unless of course the plan is to put an ILS into Sandown or Bembridge?
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With just 6 days to go before first flight of Wight Air still no reference about it on the Sandown Airport web site.
Still no e mail response from Sandown Airport to e mails asking for information of flights by Wight Air
Still no sign of a web site for the "new" airline.
Still no e mail response from Sandown Airport to e mails asking for information of flights by Wight Air
Still no sign of a web site for the "new" airline.
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ha ha
Anyone told these guys about the Guernsey Transport Board or it's successor. Used to be known locally as the "Getthe****away Board" due to its record of making it difficult for any new airline to come into GCI in competition with their government owned airline. Is life still as fifficult down there for the donkeys?
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Its not how many bankers need to get to Sandown.Its a question of how many MPs on the island need to get to London every day, plus the odd NHS Chief Exec. The plane will just smell of bull when it lands. Just think they will all be back here and able to clock in before overtime kicks in! Yes someone has done a lot of homework and I do not think it will be Jo Bloggs using this service.
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Aurigny has only been owned by the States of Guernsey for about three years. It is probably true to say that the privatlley owned Aurigny was protected in its monopoly of inter island flights. Actually, Rockhopper or whatever its called now, only succeeded in getting a foothold on the inter island services when Aurigny became state owned. I suggest this was more a reflection of the open skies policy of Jersey (Guernsey looks hard at what Jersey is doing) than the transport licencing people being open in their approach.
Aurigny has only been owned by the States of Guernsey for about three years. It is probably true to say that the privatlley owned Aurigny was protected in its monopoly of inter island flights. Actually, Rockhopper or whatever its called now, only succeeded in getting a foothold on the inter island services when Aurigny became state owned. I suggest this was more a reflection of the open skies policy of Jersey (Guernsey looks hard at what Jersey is doing) than the transport licencing people being open in their approach.
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Concerning the projected flights to London City next Monday I have just had a reply from the airport "Phone **** ****** (the aircraft owner) on 01983*****" Not much help or joy from an airport that would benefit if the service were to commence.
No reply yet from the editor of the Isle of Wight newspaper who ran the story as its lead last Friday.
No reply yet from the editor of the Isle of Wight newspaper who ran the story as its lead last Friday.