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BMI Baby Charge for Hold Baggage
I see BMI Baby are joining Flybe/Ryanair/Manx2 and starting to charge for hold baggage. £2.50 if booked on-line and £5.00 if presented at check-in.
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bmibaby baggage policy change
bmibaby remains committed to offering a quality and relevant service to passengers and we are constantly talking to customers to understand exactly what they require. Extensive research has highlighted that passengers want a continuation of low cost fares, to only pay for the services that they use and an increase in hand baggage. As a result bmibaby has updated its baggage policy as follows:
bmibaby is increasing the weight allowance of hand baggage from 7kgs to 10kgs. One small item of hand baggage per person may be carried into the aircraft cabin, weighing no more than 10kg and with dimensions of less than 55cm x 40cm x 20cm.
As part of the updated baggage policy new fees will now apply to each item of checked in hold luggage. This policy is part of bmibaby’s long term commitment to keeping fares low therefore fares will continue to start from just £13.99 one way including taxes and charges. Passengers will only pay for the services that they require.
For each item of hold baggage booked in advance of travel on www.bmibaby.com, a £2.50 charge per item of baggage will apply per one way flight. If booking via the call centre or arriving at the airport without pre booking online a £5.00 charge per item will apply per one way flight. The maximum checked baggage allowance for each passenger travelling remains at 20kg per person. Any passenger checking in baggage exceeding their 20kg checked baggage allowance (per person) will be charged an excess baggage fee at a rate of £5 per kilo (or local currency equivalent). A single piece of baggage must not exceed 32kg in weight.
Passengers may not use the unused checked baggage allowance of other passengers. No sharing of the checked baggage allowance is permitted, even within a party travelling on the same Confirmation Number.
bmibaby’s updated baggage policy will come into effect from 29th November 2006. Any booking made prior to 29th November 2006 will not have to pay the baggage charge. However if a passenger changes their booking after this date the new baggage policy will apply as the terms and conditions will have changed.
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Brgds
Richard
bmibaby baggage policy change
bmibaby remains committed to offering a quality and relevant service to passengers and we are constantly talking to customers to understand exactly what they require. Extensive research has highlighted that passengers want a continuation of low cost fares, to only pay for the services that they use and an increase in hand baggage. As a result bmibaby has updated its baggage policy as follows:
bmibaby is increasing the weight allowance of hand baggage from 7kgs to 10kgs. One small item of hand baggage per person may be carried into the aircraft cabin, weighing no more than 10kg and with dimensions of less than 55cm x 40cm x 20cm.
As part of the updated baggage policy new fees will now apply to each item of checked in hold luggage. This policy is part of bmibaby’s long term commitment to keeping fares low therefore fares will continue to start from just £13.99 one way including taxes and charges. Passengers will only pay for the services that they require.
For each item of hold baggage booked in advance of travel on www.bmibaby.com, a £2.50 charge per item of baggage will apply per one way flight. If booking via the call centre or arriving at the airport without pre booking online a £5.00 charge per item will apply per one way flight. The maximum checked baggage allowance for each passenger travelling remains at 20kg per person. Any passenger checking in baggage exceeding their 20kg checked baggage allowance (per person) will be charged an excess baggage fee at a rate of £5 per kilo (or local currency equivalent). A single piece of baggage must not exceed 32kg in weight.
Passengers may not use the unused checked baggage allowance of other passengers. No sharing of the checked baggage allowance is permitted, even within a party travelling on the same Confirmation Number.
bmibaby’s updated baggage policy will come into effect from 29th November 2006. Any booking made prior to 29th November 2006 will not have to pay the baggage charge. However if a passenger changes their booking after this date the new baggage policy will apply as the terms and conditions will have changed.
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Well seems fairly resonable too me on a LOCO, but it does seem to me they have been led by the hand i.e They are never market leaders or the first to... . This I think will ultimiley be ww downfall, with so many rumours of them being bought (would SMB allow that?) with EZY often being cited as the favouroute. Or could it even be merged back into mainline, with new A319, as their service levels are really quite similar. They arent really the UKs number 2, Jet 2 has that title now with more planes and routes.
They are really a falling airline IMHO.
They are really a falling airline IMHO.
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Talk about 1 step forward, 2 steps back! Thought bmibaby were finally getting somewhere with their focus on BHX expansion and now they do this. I really think they will live to rue this decision. I for one wont be travelling with them again because of this. Ok, so they've followed the lead of others. But let's get one thing straight, the likes of FR and BE can get away with it more because a good deal of their pax are business people who will only be travelling with hand luggage. Bmibaby however has a significant number of flights to AGP, ALC, PMI, FAO, MJV and the like and a lot of people will use them for their summer holidays. I don't see families going away for two weeks taking hand luggage only. These are the people that are going to get stung when checking in 4 or 5 bags each time they travel. I can't see them wanting to fly baby if they have to pay upwards of 20 quid just to checkin their suitcases. I use WW a fair bit on the MAN - AGP route but i'll be looking to ZB and LS as alternatives from now on. I can see others doing the same.
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If you are flying WW and usually take excess then it is actually a good deal, instead of paying £5 per kilo you can pay £2.50 prior to check in per bag and check in upto 5 pieces at 20kgs per bag.
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Lexxity, when travveling with ww you are still only allowed 20kgs of luggage. (same as before) and they will still charge you £5 extra per kg. So worse deal, I think so! Plus I also have to agree with FLYZB, most of their flights are lesuire, and so passenger will and I assure you do expect that the luggage costs are in with the ticket. They are also not the cheapest, anyway here from CWL they are actually a damn sight more expensive that TOM/FCA and previously XL. They cant really expect the majority of passenfers to take to this, another terrible desicion by SMB. (In my opinion the worlds worst man to run an airline, GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER
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Rant is now over, I do actually like WW service and that is why I fly with them regulary but I may reconsider especially if CWL gets flybe.
Smile!!!
)Rant is now over, I do actually like WW service and that is why I fly with them regulary but I may reconsider especially if CWL gets flybe.
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If I had my way the baby would be given a new set of toys, babygrows and sent to school. (new fleet, uniforms and crew training). Or maybe SMB should put his 'baby' and its parent up for adoption...
Funny thing is...mainline bmi fares are sometines cheaper than baby's quoted fares! £25 LBA-LHR-LBA where as the baby starts at £13.99 one way, and Ive never found one of these.
Im sorry its time to say "bye-bye baby" and make it earn its keep. Either re-integrate baby into bmi or cut off its trust fund entirely.
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Smile it would appear my internal memo was missing a page, ie the one about still charging for excess. Good eh?
The passengers I spoke to today didn't seem to care too much about paying to check bags in, they seemed to think it quite normal.
Not that I'm defending it. I just don't see it having such a big effect on loads as others do. Next summer will tell.
The passengers I spoke to today didn't seem to care too much about paying to check bags in, they seemed to think it quite normal.
Not that I'm defending it. I just don't see it having such a big effect on loads as others do. Next summer will tell.
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So, SMILE...
Most of babys flights are leisure are they?
CWL-GLA/EDI/BFS/AMS at least twice a day, weekly(apart from AMS)
EMA-GLA/EDI/BFS/AMS/CDG..up to 3 times a day
BHX-EDI/BFS/ABZ...ditto
MAN-BFS again up to 4 times daily...
If you're going to have a go, at least get yr facts right.
I think you'll find that charging for baggage is going to be the norm
for most carriers pretty shortly.
Baby are not the 1st to do it,and won't certainly be the last, either.
And what has SMB ever done to you?
Right, back to the football !!!
Most of babys flights are leisure are they?
CWL-GLA/EDI/BFS/AMS at least twice a day, weekly(apart from AMS)
EMA-GLA/EDI/BFS/AMS/CDG..up to 3 times a day
BHX-EDI/BFS/ABZ...ditto
MAN-BFS again up to 4 times daily...
If you're going to have a go, at least get yr facts right.
I think you'll find that charging for baggage is going to be the norm
for most carriers pretty shortly.
Baby are not the 1st to do it,and won't certainly be the last, either.
And what has SMB ever done to you?
Right, back to the football !!!
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1) easyJet / bmibaby merger unlikely to happen. Why would easyJet want to take on our cost base, ageing 737s considering most of them are ex-EZY which they wanted to retire, bases at airports which are already close to EZY ones and deal with all the stresses of a merger when organic growth is easier?
2) bmibaby is already a profitable member of the group, so comments that we need to pull our weight are unfounded.
3) bmibaby is charging for hold luggage like more and more low-cost airlines to cover the cost of baggage handling, check in leases as well as the excess fuel needed for people carrying more luggage.
4) Whilst service standards may have slipped since the company was British Midland, the bmibaby brand has been successful, service is better than some rival low-cost airlines evident from the awards we continue to win and the uniforms introduced in 2005 were a huge improvement over the old ones.
5) bmibaby are currently sorting out their fleet plan for next summer. There is an aircraft arriving I believe in March which is currently unassigned to a base. Could be EMA, could be CWL.
2) bmibaby is already a profitable member of the group, so comments that we need to pull our weight are unfounded.
3) bmibaby is charging for hold luggage like more and more low-cost airlines to cover the cost of baggage handling, check in leases as well as the excess fuel needed for people carrying more luggage.
4) Whilst service standards may have slipped since the company was British Midland, the bmibaby brand has been successful, service is better than some rival low-cost airlines evident from the awards we continue to win and the uniforms introduced in 2005 were a huge improvement over the old ones.
5) bmibaby are currently sorting out their fleet plan for next summer. There is an aircraft arriving I believe in March which is currently unassigned to a base. Could be EMA, could be CWL.
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Baby carry more pax on Bfs - Bhx than Bfs - Man, yet offer more flights to Man than Bhx. Why is this? Surely there appears to be more of a case for higher frequency to Bhx?
I am disappointed that they have decided to follow the rest on baggage policy. There is a desparate need for one to have the courage to be different. But then this is the same in most industry, few leaders really have the courage of their convictions.
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I am disappointed that they have decided to follow the rest on baggage policy. There is a desparate need for one to have the courage to be different. But then this is the same in most industry, few leaders really have the courage of their convictions.
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Most of babys flights are leisure are they?
This 4th aircraft also, I know it was originally planned for CWL but in typical WW style they are owwing and arrring about it, does anyone know when an announcement is to be made?
So you actually like flying knackered 737 classics? Complete with broken seats and tatty interiors?
his is an airline that I fly because I have to, and it is a shame because mainline BMI is a pleasure.
1) easyJet / bmibaby merger unlikely to happen. Why would easyJet want to take on our cost base, ageing 737s considering most of them are ex-EZY which they wanted to retire, bases at airports which are already close to EZY ones and deal with all the stresses of a merger when organic growth is easier?
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Because we know that standardisation of fleets leads to some very significant cost reductions of a combined operation. Sure you can maintain the status quo but then have much less ability to reduce overall costs for the newly merged business, which rapidly leads to "well what's the point then" comments about the merger from those of us at the beancounting end.
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Obviously as an employee of the bmi group (with the tiny lot) the future of the group is of huge interest to me, and I agree that the way things are going are concerning, in so much as bmi haven't done a great deal to significantly expand into the longhaul market and have stepped down from a lot of shorthaul markets rather than try to put up some sort of fight. Positively, bmi regional has made it's mark in a lot of high yielding routes with the Embraers and bmibaby seems to do well in the markets we're in even if we don't offer the most exciting combination of routes.
Simply, bmi has been rumoured to be sold off to lots of different airlines in my period of working for the group. I've heard we'd become a 100% subsidiary of SAS, Lufthansa and Virgin Atlantic or been merged with BRAL, and guess what, 10 years later we're still a British independent airline. A merger with easyJet simply wouldn't work, no matter if people wish for their to be an EZY base at Manchester or Birmingham, EZY have perfectly functioning bases just up the road which they operate profitably from their own organic growth - not having to pick up an aging fleet, difficult staff contracts etc. They seem perfectly profitable as they are, without merging with us.
bmi has to react quickly now if they want to stay ahead of the game. The BA Connect / flybe deal is a perfect time to win back passengers to the group by investing in the bmibaby product. Before Open Skies comes into effect, it seems a good idea to expand our European and Middle Eastern network from LHR with a decent product. Whether those in Donington Hall manage to realise or execute this on the other hand remains to be seen.
Simply, bmi has been rumoured to be sold off to lots of different airlines in my period of working for the group. I've heard we'd become a 100% subsidiary of SAS, Lufthansa and Virgin Atlantic or been merged with BRAL, and guess what, 10 years later we're still a British independent airline. A merger with easyJet simply wouldn't work, no matter if people wish for their to be an EZY base at Manchester or Birmingham, EZY have perfectly functioning bases just up the road which they operate profitably from their own organic growth - not having to pick up an aging fleet, difficult staff contracts etc. They seem perfectly profitable as they are, without merging with us.
bmi has to react quickly now if they want to stay ahead of the game. The BA Connect / flybe deal is a perfect time to win back passengers to the group by investing in the bmibaby product. Before Open Skies comes into effect, it seems a good idea to expand our European and Middle Eastern network from LHR with a decent product. Whether those in Donington Hall manage to realise or execute this on the other hand remains to be seen.
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Why are baby showing such reluctance to expand from cwl? Surely they should tap into the unserved key routes from cwl such as paris cdg, which has been left for months, and the 4th a/c should be used to serve this neglected 'base'.