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1) The aircraft is 5 years old and thus out of warranty.
2) Isn't that crack just where you would expect to check carefully after a heavy landing.
3) Apparently the relevant spare parts are available but some custom machining is required which is the main cause of the extended AOG.
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I have to say that I've never known an AOG go on for so long. Structural damage caused by a landing incident, yes - viz 757s at Funchal, Gib etc - but for an AOG, it is taking a huge length of time to get it fixed. I appreciate that it isn't your every-day AOG, but I've known whole undercarriage legs get replaced and even a heavily corroded wing spar repaired quicker than this.
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Flightrider
Have a look at the pics on the thread posted by EGCC on the previous page.
The crack is in the block that is, I am told, attached to the main spar by deep frozen bolts hammered home to an interference fit before the nuts are screwed down. It is then covered by the fuel tanks.
It is the first time Airbus have come across this and the new parts have to be manufactured. It is rumoured that VS have an A340 with a similar problem although I would have expected to have that rumoured either quashed or confirmed here.
HWB
Have a look at the pics on the thread posted by EGCC on the previous page.
The crack is in the block that is, I am told, attached to the main spar by deep frozen bolts hammered home to an interference fit before the nuts are screwed down. It is then covered by the fuel tanks.
It is the first time Airbus have come across this and the new parts have to be manufactured. It is rumoured that VS have an A340 with a similar problem although I would have expected to have that rumoured either quashed or confirmed here.
HWB
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BMI suspend Mumbai
http://www.just4airlines.com/j4_dox/...story_id=27166
So, what's wrong with the jet?
So, what's wrong with the jet?
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From: western europe
It's all here on PPRuNe ......
It's a nasty problem for sure ....
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=245986
It's a nasty problem for sure ....
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=245986
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From: UK - Near LHR
The A330 is gonna to be leased out for some unknown reason !
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From: oop north
I have to say that I've never known an AOG go on for so long. Structural damage caused by a landing incident, yes - viz 757s at Funchal, Gib etc - but for an AOG, it is taking a huge length of time to get it fixed. I appreciate that it isn't your every-day AOG, but I've known whole undercarriage legs get replaced and even a heavily corroded wing spar repaired quicker than this.
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From: london
if thats the case I wonder if they will use the crew + f/d?
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From: North of Land's End, South of John O Groats
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From: Northern Ireland
Aer Lingus Bfs Lhr
Well, Bfs itself was talking about the possibility of EI doing the Bfs - Lhr route within the last few days. The article was in the business section of the Belfast Telegraph. Follow the link and read it for yourself.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...p?story=708574
True Blue
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...p?story=708574
True Blue
I actually tried to find the info in the link above but couldnt seem to find it . Must try again. This is my first day as a member! Hello everyone!
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From: Northern Ireland
A Bmi takeover
Has anyone ever considered that Easyjet is most likely buyer the bmi operation?
This would give Easyjet access to LHR, also new bases at MAN CWL BHX and bigger opertion at EMA?
The boeings and airbus could be adsorbed easily and the takeover could be like what EASYJET did with go. This could put them in front of Ryanair in terms of size and scope???
If it happened Easyjet would probably scrap long haul??? And the regional operation, but might keep some of the better regional routes and upgrade viable ones to 319 or boeing equipment.
My reason for believing this is for a few reasons. Bmibaby and EZY have been pretty good at keeping out of each others way. Bmibaby pulled Gatwick to Cork and Prague as EZY announced service a few yrs ago. At the same time EZY dropped EMA to GLA & EDI.. A little bit of cooperation going on there.
It would appear from the outside that inside the BMI group very little progress is being made in terms of expansion. I would have expected bmibaby to be the vehicle for expansion in the group since LHR restricts bmi from growing due to slot restrictions. Still no significant aircraft orders or European bases for Bmibaby and no headline expansion plans, like the other LCCs do???
What do the rest of the PPrune members think of this?
This would give Easyjet access to LHR, also new bases at MAN CWL BHX and bigger opertion at EMA?
The boeings and airbus could be adsorbed easily and the takeover could be like what EASYJET did with go. This could put them in front of Ryanair in terms of size and scope???
If it happened Easyjet would probably scrap long haul??? And the regional operation, but might keep some of the better regional routes and upgrade viable ones to 319 or boeing equipment.
My reason for believing this is for a few reasons. Bmibaby and EZY have been pretty good at keeping out of each others way. Bmibaby pulled Gatwick to Cork and Prague as EZY announced service a few yrs ago. At the same time EZY dropped EMA to GLA & EDI.. A little bit of cooperation going on there.
It would appear from the outside that inside the BMI group very little progress is being made in terms of expansion. I would have expected bmibaby to be the vehicle for expansion in the group since LHR restricts bmi from growing due to slot restrictions. Still no significant aircraft orders or European bases for Bmibaby and no headline expansion plans, like the other LCCs do???
What do the rest of the PPrune members think of this?
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From: Solihull
Easy
EI-BUD
I for one agree that Baby would fit nicely into Easy in respect of bases
and of course it might also solve any crewing problems. They probably would not particularly want the 733's back but that is a minor matter.
Also with the news of the last few weeks (BACON/Flybe) it does mean that BHX and MAN are wide open for an airline with such a strong brand.
Most on this forum have said that EASY are not interested in BHX or
MAN (certainly Liverpool has a big base) but if the price is right surely
they would have to listen?
For us in the Midlands I think in the long-term Flybe/BACON and
Baby to Easyjet would be a win win situation.
Pete
I for one agree that Baby would fit nicely into Easy in respect of bases
and of course it might also solve any crewing problems. They probably would not particularly want the 733's back but that is a minor matter.
Also with the news of the last few weeks (BACON/Flybe) it does mean that BHX and MAN are wide open for an airline with such a strong brand.
Most on this forum have said that EASY are not interested in BHX or
MAN (certainly Liverpool has a big base) but if the price is right surely
they would have to listen?
For us in the Midlands I think in the long-term Flybe/BACON and
Baby to Easyjet would be a win win situation.
Pete