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Guys this post is turning unnecessarily nasty. I think all the crew at FJE are aware of an enormous amount of problems facing us, which, appear not to be addresses by management. PPrune is a great way for us to vent our anger and make our feelings known about the current situation, however it isn't particularly productive. We need to find a way to address these problems directly with management, and to find a way of getting management to listen to us. I do believe half of the problems we are currently encountering are a matter of beauraucracy and the lack of office based staff to deal with them; such as the matter of cabin crew contracts. If anyone has any ideas on how we as crew can address these matters then I urge you to put them forward either to other members of crew, flight crew and cabin crew alike, or directly to the management team.
It is a great shame to see such animosity in a company where the crew get on so well and work so well as a team, we are in a position where there is no other way forward but to work compitently as a team. Flyjet's people, particularly the crews really are Flyjet's greatest assett, there is more experience within the crew's than you can shake a stick at and not to mention the wonderful personalities we have withn.
before I end my rant, I would like to pass this message onto the management team:
Please for the sake of crew morale, if nothing else, issue a newsletter detailing what is happening within Flyjet. Unhappy crew makes for an unhappy passenger after all!
JP
It is a great shame to see such animosity in a company where the crew get on so well and work so well as a team, we are in a position where there is no other way forward but to work compitently as a team. Flyjet's people, particularly the crews really are Flyjet's greatest assett, there is more experience within the crew's than you can shake a stick at and not to mention the wonderful personalities we have withn.
before I end my rant, I would like to pass this message onto the management team:
Please for the sake of crew morale, if nothing else, issue a newsletter detailing what is happening within Flyjet. Unhappy crew makes for an unhappy passenger after all!
JP
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So who has deleted Ice's post??
Janetplum pass on your messege - but it seems FJE dont learn by their mistakes. Only a year and a half ago people were leaving in their droves to other established airlines for better terms and conditions - according to Ice's deleted post more seem to be about to go (there are plenty of jobs out there!!) and from the other posts people are not happy. Will it take another exodus before management sort things.
Janetplum pass on your messege - but it seems FJE dont learn by their mistakes. Only a year and a half ago people were leaving in their droves to other established airlines for better terms and conditions - according to Ice's deleted post more seem to be about to go (there are plenty of jobs out there!!) and from the other posts people are not happy. Will it take another exodus before management sort things.
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HH6702 FJE have done longhaul before to India and Ghana and are planning more executive longhaul.
gatwicknose, didnt Sabre turn into Globespan and are they not branching out into longhaul with a 767 from MAN, maybe FJE will have tie-in with them, or maybe Silverjet who are looking at longhaul using executive fit 767-200's that are rumoured to be coming from Thomsonfly, paperwork comes as standard!!
There is an article in flight magazine that two undisclosed airlines have ordered the B787 through Boeing Business Jets with executive fit, maybe FJE is one of the two, that would be big news, but I doubt it!!
According to Albert Halls post 03/08 there is not much happening to the 767 in Lasham maybe thats why there was no announcement.
All the best
gatwicknose, didnt Sabre turn into Globespan and are they not branching out into longhaul with a 767 from MAN, maybe FJE will have tie-in with them, or maybe Silverjet who are looking at longhaul using executive fit 767-200's that are rumoured to be coming from Thomsonfly, paperwork comes as standard!!
There is an article in flight magazine that two undisclosed airlines have ordered the B787 through Boeing Business Jets with executive fit, maybe FJE is one of the two, that would be big news, but I doubt it!!
According to Albert Halls post 03/08 there is not much happening to the 767 in Lasham maybe thats why there was no announcement.
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Excel evolved from Sabre...many apologies....my concern is that a ***** is in place....not a good thing unless you are desperate... My question is when are FFC going to bale out here??
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Step back a minute guys! Think this way. You post with all the anonimity you require or perhaps like, yet some of you think its OK to mention names, quite openly sometimes.
Soooooo, how would you like it if I mention your name after you betrayed the trust you signed up to uphold when you registered on PPRuNe. Fair enough or what??
THINK BEFORE YOU SUBMIT YOUR POST!!!!
Soooooo, how would you like it if I mention your name after you betrayed the trust you signed up to uphold when you registered on PPRuNe. Fair enough or what??
THINK BEFORE YOU SUBMIT YOUR POST!!!!
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Not sure its in the best interests of your Airline to rant like this. Most Airlines have issues but this is not the best place to view your concerns.
My own personal view (only from the experience of working for 9 different airlines) is that you should be glad that your employed by FJE at the moment, enjoy it whilst you can. If its that bad then you have got to look after no 1
My own personal view (only from the experience of working for 9 different airlines) is that you should be glad that your employed by FJE at the moment, enjoy it whilst you can. If its that bad then you have got to look after no 1
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After reading this thread over the past few days I felt the urge to reply.
Flyjet is a small, independant charter company who is slowly building itself a reputation in the industry. We have completed the usual charter contracts in the UK and carried out a various range of sub work for other airlines to some very far flung places, experience the crews have loved, despite it sometimes being far from exotic or glamourous.
Sure, the airline has their problems.
Yes, management don't seem to communicate very well but has anyone ever thought that what they do know may well be commercially sensitive?
we are told that they are constantly in discussions for new contracts for short and long term. Indeed at the start of this summer, Flyjet signed a 3 year deal with XL.
The 767 thing is very frustrating for the staff at flyjet, who in the most part are dedicated, hard working and very well experienced. Wether or not it will work out, only time will tell. I do agree with various comments regarding the reliability of the 2 757 a/c. They do let us down more than we would hope but decent 757 a/c at a competitive lease rate are very hard to find, particularly for a small airline like Flyjet. Yes the interiors are tired and we constantly tell management that they need updating and the IFE fixing, as that is a top priority for many pax on longer charter sectors.
Apart from LGW, the bases at MAN and NCL (new this year) are performing well. MAN has a full programme and NCL has a busy summer and equally busy programme for the winter. Yes there was a slight hiccup when we had to rely on XL to cover the work using Finnair a/c for 2 months, but on the whole pax reactions at NCL where FJE had no previous reputation is very good. The staff up there have done an excellent job in creating a good thing.
For those staff who are leaving it is entirely their decision. Flyjet, in some peoples mind may not be that secure, but who is to say any other airline is more secure, particularly in this climate.
While I am not agreeing or disagreeing with posts made here, lets give Flyjet a chance, or at the very least stop the nastiness and if someone has something to say do it diplomatically. No other airline seems to suffer on these forums like FJE!!
Flyjet is a small, independant charter company who is slowly building itself a reputation in the industry. We have completed the usual charter contracts in the UK and carried out a various range of sub work for other airlines to some very far flung places, experience the crews have loved, despite it sometimes being far from exotic or glamourous.
Sure, the airline has their problems.
Yes, management don't seem to communicate very well but has anyone ever thought that what they do know may well be commercially sensitive?
we are told that they are constantly in discussions for new contracts for short and long term. Indeed at the start of this summer, Flyjet signed a 3 year deal with XL.
The 767 thing is very frustrating for the staff at flyjet, who in the most part are dedicated, hard working and very well experienced. Wether or not it will work out, only time will tell. I do agree with various comments regarding the reliability of the 2 757 a/c. They do let us down more than we would hope but decent 757 a/c at a competitive lease rate are very hard to find, particularly for a small airline like Flyjet. Yes the interiors are tired and we constantly tell management that they need updating and the IFE fixing, as that is a top priority for many pax on longer charter sectors.
Apart from LGW, the bases at MAN and NCL (new this year) are performing well. MAN has a full programme and NCL has a busy summer and equally busy programme for the winter. Yes there was a slight hiccup when we had to rely on XL to cover the work using Finnair a/c for 2 months, but on the whole pax reactions at NCL where FJE had no previous reputation is very good. The staff up there have done an excellent job in creating a good thing.
For those staff who are leaving it is entirely their decision. Flyjet, in some peoples mind may not be that secure, but who is to say any other airline is more secure, particularly in this climate.
While I am not agreeing or disagreeing with posts made here, lets give Flyjet a chance, or at the very least stop the nastiness and if someone has something to say do it diplomatically. No other airline seems to suffer on these forums like FJE!!
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No More Nastiness
Just like lgwechobravo i have been reading this forum lately,and would just like to say that i agree with them in all they say.
Even if crews do not agree with certain aspects of the company then surely they should atleast be sticking together and continue having fun at work to get through this time of low morale!!! They have done it before and can do it again.
The crew work extremely hard and in time i hope will be rewarded. There is a future so lets wait and see what it brings.
Even if crews do not agree with certain aspects of the company then surely they should atleast be sticking together and continue having fun at work to get through this time of low morale!!! They have done it before and can do it again.
The crew work extremely hard and in time i hope will be rewarded. There is a future so lets wait and see what it brings.
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Follow the yellow brick road, Dorothy
"Even if crews do not agree with certain aspects of the company then surely they should atleast be sticking together and continue having fun at work to get through this time of low morale!!! They have done it before and can do it again." one on one.
Fair comment, but face it - This isn't Kansas anymore, Toto and you should know whose Kingdom you're at, wycked or good, eh Rumad ?
Fair comment, but face it - This isn't Kansas anymore, Toto and you should know whose Kingdom you're at, wycked or good, eh Rumad ?
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There must be some SICK individuals about that take pleasure in others misfortunes. Give this airline a break, no doubt its trying its best and should we all not want to see more airlines suceed. It is the business we are in.
It only has 2 (3) aircraft, but there seems to be a lot of people having a crack at it, go get a life, preferable one away from aviation.
It only has 2 (3) aircraft, but there seems to be a lot of people having a crack at it, go get a life, preferable one away from aviation.
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Please people, GROW UP.
I don't work for Flyjet but it starts to
me off that some people only post on this thread to show everybody the delays Flyjet has. Take a look on various airport arrival information pages and you will see that EVERY charter airline has one of its flights delayed.
There is one thing you have to keep in mind. One day it can be the company that pays YOUR salary!! It's going alright in the industry at the moment but your and mine company can go bust without warning. And when that happens your might be knocking on Flyjets door for a job.
I don't work for Flyjet but it starts to
me off that some people only post on this thread to show everybody the delays Flyjet has. Take a look on various airport arrival information pages and you will see that EVERY charter airline has one of its flights delayed.There is one thing you have to keep in mind. One day it can be the company that pays YOUR salary!! It's going alright in the industry at the moment but your and mine company can go bust without warning. And when that happens your might be knocking on Flyjets door for a job.
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rumour of the day
Rumour has it that three new directors have joined FJE one to be financial and two others...one or more are ex aer-lingus.... one or two resignations as well possibly in the sales and crewing departments... anyone else heard anything about this???