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From teifiboy's link....
That option would ensure that MB would watch from the sidelines as bmi was hung, drawn and quartered.
One wonders if he cares.
Even more unbelievable, though, is that the employees of bmi seem to be completely unconcerned. Maybe they're just too stupid.
Bishop may have one last card up his sleeve, however: he owns a put option which would allow him to force Lufthansa to buy his 50% plus one share stake in BMI for E330m.
One wonders if he cares.
Even more unbelievable, though, is that the employees of bmi seem to be completely unconcerned. Maybe they're just too stupid.
Originally Posted by teifiboy
more bmi bashing from the press here.. getting a bit tiresome now
http://www.thebusinessonline.com/Sto...1-6335FDE21694
http://www.thebusinessonline.com/Sto...1-6335FDE21694
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BMI - To Russia With Love...
From the Moscow Times
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/storie...04/03/048.html
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/storie...04/03/048.html
Britain's BMI to Start Flights to Moscow as Demand Soars
BMI has been approved to fly to Moscow under a British-Russian accord.
BMI, Britain's No. 3 airline, has won Russian approval to start daily flights between Moscow and London to help meet surging demand for business and holiday travel between the two countries, the Transportation Ministry said Friday.
Civil aviation authorities from the two countries reached an accord late Thursday that allows BMI to begin daily flights in the second quarter and twice-daily flights in the third, said ministry spokesman Konstantin Rubakhin. In return, Aeroflot and Transaero, as well as British Airways, can add flights between Moscow and London. "This agreement reflects parity and growing passenger traffic," Rubakhin said by telephone, declining to provide growth figures.
Foreign carriers saw passenger volumes on their Russian routes surge 20 percent last year, according to government figures. Russian airlines carried 31.5 million passengers, up 3.9 percent on the year.
"We're delighted that after such a long time this has been accepted," BMI spokesman Phil Shepherd said from company headquarters in Derby, England. "BMI received a designation to fly to Russia five years ago; however, it wasn't recognized by the Russian authorities until now."
The two countries also approved new routes between Moscow and Birmingham and Liverpool, as well as between London and Krasnoyarsk and Kaliningrad, though which airlines will serve those routes has not been determined yet, Rubakhin said.
British Airways will add three weekly flights between London and Moscow, for a total of 18, as a result of Thursday's agreement, British Airways spokeswoman Maria Shlyakhtova said by telephone.
BMI has been approved to fly to Moscow under a British-Russian accord.
BMI, Britain's No. 3 airline, has won Russian approval to start daily flights between Moscow and London to help meet surging demand for business and holiday travel between the two countries, the Transportation Ministry said Friday.
Civil aviation authorities from the two countries reached an accord late Thursday that allows BMI to begin daily flights in the second quarter and twice-daily flights in the third, said ministry spokesman Konstantin Rubakhin. In return, Aeroflot and Transaero, as well as British Airways, can add flights between Moscow and London. "This agreement reflects parity and growing passenger traffic," Rubakhin said by telephone, declining to provide growth figures.
Foreign carriers saw passenger volumes on their Russian routes surge 20 percent last year, according to government figures. Russian airlines carried 31.5 million passengers, up 3.9 percent on the year.
"We're delighted that after such a long time this has been accepted," BMI spokesman Phil Shepherd said from company headquarters in Derby, England. "BMI received a designation to fly to Russia five years ago; however, it wasn't recognized by the Russian authorities until now."
The two countries also approved new routes between Moscow and Birmingham and Liverpool, as well as between London and Krasnoyarsk and Kaliningrad, though which airlines will serve those routes has not been determined yet, Rubakhin said.
British Airways will add three weekly flights between London and Moscow, for a total of 18, as a result of Thursday's agreement, British Airways spokeswoman Maria Shlyakhtova said by telephone.
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employees of bmi seem to be completely unconcerned. Maybe they're just too stupid.
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Get your facts right before posting such cr@p
My "maybe" (oops! it was only a "maybe".....did you notice that?!) was based upon far too many years of observation from within and the responses posted herein (or, more accurately, lack of responses posted herein).
What are your "facts" based upon? When have bmi employees ever (a) taken an intelligently focused interest in their fate and (b) stood up for themselves?
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Acbus1 when did you last work for bmi?
I can tell you exactly the last time my base stood up for themselves, but you wouldn't want facts to ruin your favourite hobby now would you? As I have already said, we are keeping it in the private forum so we don't have to listen to ill informed comments from people who enjoy bashing.
I can tell you exactly the last time my base stood up for themselves, but you wouldn't want facts to ruin your favourite hobby now would you? As I have already said, we are keeping it in the private forum so we don't have to listen to ill informed comments from people who enjoy bashing.
Originally Posted by jerrystinger
Out of interest why does BA not offer an early morning departure from Moscow?
1. Would rather use a morning arrival slot for something from further afield.
2. Rostering restrictions for European crew on a LHR-DME-LHR overnight roundtrip.
3. Difficulties in Moscow if crew overnighted (visa probs/poor hotels/expensive hotels/Russian bureaucracy to "aid" Aeroflot).
4. Overnight eastbound for an a.m. westbound would be low fare business only.
5. If crew AND aircraft overnighted in Moscow would need to leave Heathrow by say 16.00 which cuts down productive day for one of European fleet.
Others may know more.
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Think we didnt do an early out of moscow because of difficulties getting the dep slot from SVO, where we used to operate from.
We moved to DME, and I think it became visa and crew security issues that prevented a nightsop, however we are about to start a late night dep from LHR(around 2300hr) that will mean with a round trip that we will have an early dep from moscow!!
We moved to DME, and I think it became visa and crew security issues that prevented a nightsop, however we are about to start a late night dep from LHR(around 2300hr) that will mean with a round trip that we will have an early dep from moscow!!
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'The two countries also approved new routes between Moscow and Birmingham and Liverpool
Shurely shome kinda mishtake?
Do the Russians do April Fool's Day later than the UK?
If the UK DoT have agreed this without resolving the MAN-SVO-HKG CX rights they are bigger numpties than I thought.
Unless this is a ploy to get a couple of weak regional routes to Moscow that will fall flat on their face, thus 'proving' there's no demand outside London.
Interesting that BHX and LPL are two places that don't have connecting BMi flights from LHR whereas the two no-brainer Moscow-UK destinations of Manchester and Edinburgh DO have BMi connections to LHR.
Er not that I'd use it by the way (?BMi via Heathrow that is) it will still be LH or CSA for me.
'The two countries also approved new routes between Moscow and Birmingham and Liverpool
Shurely shome kinda mishtake?Do the Russians do April Fool's Day later than the UK?
If the UK DoT have agreed this without resolving the MAN-SVO-HKG CX rights they are bigger numpties than I thought.
Unless this is a ploy to get a couple of weak regional routes to Moscow that will fall flat on their face, thus 'proving' there's no demand outside London.
Interesting that BHX and LPL are two places that don't have connecting BMi flights from LHR whereas the two no-brainer Moscow-UK destinations of Manchester and Edinburgh DO have BMi connections to LHR.
Er not that I'd use it by the way (?BMi via Heathrow that is) it will still be LH or CSA for me.
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BMI got the right to this route years ago, Virgin Atlantic won the right, but BMI objected and it was taken of VS and given to BD. But they never started the route. Good news if it comes of, but still think VS would have made a better go at it.
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It was BMI who objected to CX operating the route as they had the rites but had never flown it, seems they got their way in the end. Hopefully this will allow CX to fly HKG-SVO-MAN now.
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Excellent to hear that you reckon you and your colleagues have now developed a backbone.
Of course, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
So I expect to see your "brave new workforce" protect it's pension rights at no extra cost. That'll be in the very near future.
And I expect your "brave new workforce" to survive the debacle when MB washes his hands of whatever remains of bmi at some indeterminate time in the future. That may take a while, or not, who knows.
Nothing would please me more than to see the bmi workforce stand up for itself.
Excellent to hear that you reckon you and your colleagues have now developed a backbone.
Of course, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
So I expect to see your "brave new workforce" protect it's pension rights at no extra cost. That'll be in the very near future.
And I expect your "brave new workforce" to survive the debacle when MB washes his hands of whatever remains of bmi at some indeterminate time in the future. That may take a while, or not, who knows.
Nothing would please me more than to see the bmi workforce stand up for itself.
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Who the hell do you think you are? Let me assure you we are neither stupid nor unconcerned to what is going on.
Please go and play with the traffic and let the thread run without your sad and ignorant mumblings.
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Who the hell do you think you are? Let me assure you we are neither stupid nor unconcerned to what is going on.
Please go and play with the traffic and let the thread run without your sad and ignorant mumblings.
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Originally Posted by lexxity
Acbus1 that's below the belt. Get your facts right before posting such cr@p. This is being discussed on the private forum between the "stupid" employees.
How does another stupid bmi employee get into the private forum.
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And I expect your "brave new workforce" to survive the debacle when MB washes his hands of whatever remains of bmi at some indeterminate time in the future. That may take a while, or not, who knows.
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Why the Venom?
Have to agree with you INKJET. You obviously have a balanced view and understanding of the bmi position with regards to LH & SAS and the difficult operating position they placed bmi in.
On the other hand, ACBUS1 seems to hold an unbalanced and bitter view of the company and its employees. He/she must have a personal axe to grind, unlike the majority of us. We all have our problems - but deal with them and get on with life.
For every bitter and twisted comment posted here there are many more well wishers that do not wish to see the demise of bmi, bmi regional, bmi baby etc.
Although management changes have been many, the changes we see today HAVE to be made for the future success of the company, and I for one feel bmi are going down the right route. There is light at the end of the tunnel to coin an old phrase. PAX numbers will return. People vote with their feet, and when passengers see BA following the lead of some of bmi's initiatives, they will return.
Only time will tell - but during that time, bmi need all the support they can get. To restructure and compete in a volitile market is not an easy task and bmi is still a good company with the same issues many other companies have i.e. pension, expansion, direction.
I would not like to be in Mr Turners position - but if I were I would hope that my decisions, no matter how difficult they are to swallow, would be supported in the belief that they will turn the company round.
On the other hand, ACBUS1 seems to hold an unbalanced and bitter view of the company and its employees. He/she must have a personal axe to grind, unlike the majority of us. We all have our problems - but deal with them and get on with life.
For every bitter and twisted comment posted here there are many more well wishers that do not wish to see the demise of bmi, bmi regional, bmi baby etc.
Although management changes have been many, the changes we see today HAVE to be made for the future success of the company, and I for one feel bmi are going down the right route. There is light at the end of the tunnel to coin an old phrase. PAX numbers will return. People vote with their feet, and when passengers see BA following the lead of some of bmi's initiatives, they will return.
Only time will tell - but during that time, bmi need all the support they can get. To restructure and compete in a volitile market is not an easy task and bmi is still a good company with the same issues many other companies have i.e. pension, expansion, direction.
I would not like to be in Mr Turners position - but if I were I would hope that my decisions, no matter how difficult they are to swallow, would be supported in the belief that they will turn the company round.