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This is not a new rumour - it's been bandied about since I came to LGW around 1995.
Last time I heard that rumour was in my daughter's school playground, from a pilot from another airline, with info from "near board level".
So why introduce new routes in LGW longhaul if there was no aeroplanes to feed them?
WW stated,the last time he came down here, that LGW longhaul was the only area of the company actually making money at the moment(3 months ago).
One of the best reasons I can think of, is that there is no way WW would give Easyjet and Ryanair free reign.
In BA, cash is king at the moment. However, our ability to project ahead has not been squashed either.
Last time I heard that rumour was in my daughter's school playground, from a pilot from another airline, with info from "near board level".
So why introduce new routes in LGW longhaul if there was no aeroplanes to feed them?
WW stated,the last time he came down here, that LGW longhaul was the only area of the company actually making money at the moment(3 months ago).
One of the best reasons I can think of, is that there is no way WW would give Easyjet and Ryanair free reign.
In BA, cash is king at the moment. However, our ability to project ahead has not been squashed either.
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We were always told in the 'BA' regions how valued we were and our importance to the business as a whole, which is why I operate from LHR now.
I do, however, feel that LGW as a base will be safe................ but, perhaps only for long haul
I do, however, feel that LGW as a base will be safe................ but, perhaps only for long haul
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We'll have 737s, A319s and 777s. How many changes on a weekly basis, so can't give you a figure...
The rumour about BA quitting Lgw has been around for so long, that we just roll our eyes and say "what? again?" every time.
Gg
The rumour about BA quitting Lgw has been around for so long, that we just roll our eyes and say "what? again?" every time.
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This is a new rumour, and is based on insider talk....sounds entirely plausible that BA will focus on LHR. (Shrinking Ship!)
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Usual inability to think outside the box, glamgirl. BA staff complacency in the past has been staggering. It seems to remain so.And Skipness, look at the situation from a business point of view, not a spotter's.
Downsizing is the name of the game in a struggling company. Nothing to do with types of aircraft. Or redundancy payments. Those are one-offs and a normal part of £££write-downs. Tax efficient too.
BA will need to be smaller and more efficient if it is not to go the way of Sabena, Swissair and others. It will likely be reconstructed to survive like Alitalia, hardly a pleasant example.
And all other UK BA bases have been down-sized to almost nothing, MAN, BHX and GLA being good examples.
OH well, I don't want to pick a fight here, so I'll stay quiet and watch developments. With my head out of the sand.
Downsizing is the name of the game in a struggling company. Nothing to do with types of aircraft. Or redundancy payments. Those are one-offs and a normal part of £££write-downs. Tax efficient too.
BA will need to be smaller and more efficient if it is not to go the way of Sabena, Swissair and others. It will likely be reconstructed to survive like Alitalia, hardly a pleasant example.
And all other UK BA bases have been down-sized to almost nothing, MAN, BHX and GLA being good examples.
OH well, I don't want to pick a fight here, so I'll stay quiet and watch developments. With my head out of the sand.
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BA staff complacency in the past has been staggering
And all other UK BA bases have been down-sized to almost nothing, MAN, BHX and GLA being good examples.
By all means get involved but it doesn't sound like you're well informed at all.
And Skipness, look at the situation from a business point of view, not a spotter's.
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Just sounds like an unsubstantiated load of gossip to be honest. Care to elaborate on your trusted sources or where you got this "insider talk"? You obviously aren't a BA employee otherwise you would be more than aware of the network they operate. So you are either from a different airline, stirring, or a very ill informed spotter than needs to do more homework. Other than that it just sounds like a malicious attempt to stir up trouble at worst or just an easy way to make yourself look stupid at best.
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Oh my word!
Hmmm. Well I'm not a BA employee, I got the info from a senior selection person at BA, I fly A330's, I am not a spotter, and I can certainly be stupid but not malicious.
Sorry to have ruffled feathers but this is a rumour network, and it is for pilots. I wonder if my detractors actually qualify?
(Incidentally I use the term "base" to describe an airport into which BA currently operate, which is not strictly correct. The point I was making is that BA have been contracting in the UK geographically over many years.) Happy now, pilots Skipness and Glamgirl?
Sorry to have ruffled feathers but this is a rumour network, and it is for pilots. I wonder if my detractors actually qualify?
(Incidentally I use the term "base" to describe an airport into which BA currently operate, which is not strictly correct. The point I was making is that BA have been contracting in the UK geographically over many years.) Happy now, pilots Skipness and Glamgirl?
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You ruffled feathers are you were not listening to the responses you were given. People are not being blase; they have heard years' of rumours along the same lines and, as yet, no substiation to those rumours. It is a useful rumour to keep staff on their toes, hence nobody from up on high denying the rumour...for over 15 years.
Gatwick is a useful project / testing ground that even generates cashflow for the business. That is about as concrete a fact as you will get on a rumour network, so use your grey matter and process the information you are given!
Gatwick is a useful project / testing ground that even generates cashflow for the business. That is about as concrete a fact as you will get on a rumour network, so use your grey matter and process the information you are given!
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Wonder what the WaterWorld bean counters load onto LGW (or EOG, remember?) for centralised functions? Be interesting to see what the core operational profit loss account looks like
Accountants can make anything look good or bad as directed.
Funny how another LGW operator recently did the same, and made much of the "profits". Turned out to be a 'pullover the wool over the eyes' though.
Sir George Cayley
ps Just remembered that the threat to Ground Services at the start of the pay talks was that if they didn't agree, the BA Cargo LGW would have to go. Could that be behind this rumour? Apparently the response from the mainly LHR voters was "Wad evorrr!!"
Accountants can make anything look good or bad as directed.
Funny how another LGW operator recently did the same, and made much of the "profits". Turned out to be a 'pullover the wool over the eyes' though.
Sir George Cayley
ps Just remembered that the threat to Ground Services at the start of the pay talks was that if they didn't agree, the BA Cargo LGW would have to go. Could that be behind this rumour? Apparently the response from the mainly LHR voters was "Wad evorrr!!"
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LGW Shuttle shut 28 Sep - Summer 2010
Re the shuttle train betwen North and South terminals
From the BAA site
Gatwick prepares for new Shuttle
17 September 2009
The inter-terminal transit system at London Gatwick Airport, installed in 1987, is about to be replaced as part of the airport’s £1bn investment programme.
The existing transit, which has now completed more than two and a half million miles, will be removed from service on 28th September this year with the two new Shuttles coming into service in May and July next year. The new Shuttle service will be fully operating at the start of August 2010.
Whilst this work is undertaken, a replacement bus service will operate from the upper forecourt of both terminals every three minutes during the day (0400hrs-1800hrs) and every six minutes at night.
Passengers and staff using this service should allow 20 minutes for their journey beteen terminals.
As the transit stations will be closed, access between South Terminal and B staff car park and South Terminal and local buses will be via alternative routes.
A number of trials will be carried out during September, using the replacement bus service. These will take place over the weekend of 19-20 September and on 23, 24 and 25 September.
During its time, the inter-terminal transit system has used around 600 tyres and 16,000 power pick-up shoes The car doors have opened and closed in the region of 3.8 million times. The 2.5 million miles it has travelled is equivalent to 100 times around the earth of 5 return trips to the moon.
From the BAA site
Gatwick prepares for new Shuttle
17 September 2009
The inter-terminal transit system at London Gatwick Airport, installed in 1987, is about to be replaced as part of the airport’s £1bn investment programme.
The existing transit, which has now completed more than two and a half million miles, will be removed from service on 28th September this year with the two new Shuttles coming into service in May and July next year. The new Shuttle service will be fully operating at the start of August 2010.
Whilst this work is undertaken, a replacement bus service will operate from the upper forecourt of both terminals every three minutes during the day (0400hrs-1800hrs) and every six minutes at night.
Passengers and staff using this service should allow 20 minutes for their journey beteen terminals.
As the transit stations will be closed, access between South Terminal and B staff car park and South Terminal and local buses will be via alternative routes.
A number of trials will be carried out during September, using the replacement bus service. These will take place over the weekend of 19-20 September and on 23, 24 and 25 September.
During its time, the inter-terminal transit system has used around 600 tyres and 16,000 power pick-up shoes The car doors have opened and closed in the region of 3.8 million times. The 2.5 million miles it has travelled is equivalent to 100 times around the earth of 5 return trips to the moon.
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Easjyet to start LGW-DUS (and FCO-DUS) in February 2010:
EasyJet baut Düsseldorf aus - Netzwerkplanung - Verkehr - airliners.de
(sorry, in German only).
So let the bloodbath begin - wonder if the route will sustain two airlines.
EasyJet baut Düsseldorf aus - Netzwerkplanung - Verkehr - airliners.de
(sorry, in German only).
So let the bloodbath begin - wonder if the route will sustain two airlines.
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Signs of recovery at Gatwick
BAA have just announced September 2009 traffic figures. Despite overall figures at Gatwick down by 0.5 %, both domestic & European traffic is up by 5.8 % and 8.7 % respectively. Best since May 2008. Encouraging after most long haul buggered off to Heathrow leaving a dent in pax numbers at LGW.
BAA have just announced September 2009 traffic figures. Despite overall figures at Gatwick down by 0.5 %, both domestic & European traffic is up by 5.8 % and 8.7 % respectively. Best since May 2008. Encouraging after most long haul buggered off to Heathrow leaving a dent in pax numbers at LGW.
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Looks like DL are leaving LGW too
Just had a call to say that my booking for a DL flight from LGW to ATL on December 5th is no longer available, and that I must rebook on a flight ex LHR. That leaves only US Airways at LGW, who will undoubtedly be moving their CLT in the near future.