First Choice
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 173
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Bristol is going to be a B757 base which has never had premium on it. I think all of the A321's will be going very soon which are the only 4 planes with it on.
I am suprised FCA havent implmented this on all short haul flights because as i can see its very popular and sells out on virtually all flights, giving people that little extra legroom they want.
I am suprised FCA havent implmented this on all short haul flights because as i can see its very popular and sells out on virtually all flights, giving people that little extra legroom they want.
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Devon
Age: 45
Posts: 132
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I spoke to First Choice and the lady went through to flight ops and apparently the reason that the premium service is going from BRS is that it is under performing. I find this very hard to believe, can anyone confirm if this is true or not?
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 173
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Near sheep!
Posts: 915
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It is not under performing, and is quite a good little money spinner.
Prem' class has only ever been available on AMM/FCA's A321 & 767 a/c. Dont ask me why it was never put onto the 75 and 320 fleets, that is one for someone else.
The A321 is being removed from BRS due to the need for the 757 to take its place and open up a few more routes, and improve a few logistical issues with the 321 and Bristols runway. This will also solve several rostering headaches by having crews at BRS qualified to fly the 767 when it arrives.
So, to cut it short the prem is leaving because the 321 is leaving. Thats about it really!! Wherever these a/c end up (Man or Lgw), then prem will become available.
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 523
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
All 321's are not to go despite a previous poster suggesting so.
There will be a loss of 1 A321 from the fleet for next summer. Of the 2 BRS summer based A321's one will return to the lessor as it's lease runs out this winter, and the other will be located at LGW next summer.
Why 757's for BRS? BRS's runway length combined with the poor 'performance' of the Airbus make route structuring difficult. I think this last weekend again saw an enroute stop for fuel on one service because the aircraft wasn't capable of making it direct. The same route on the 757 wouldn't have been an issue - it's performance is just far superior. The Airbus has some good qualities, better fuel economy than the 757 for one, but if it can't cope with the routes direct it's a waste of time.
FCA want to operate Egypt routes from BRS, can't even contemplate it with a full A321.
There will be a loss of 1 A321 from the fleet for next summer. Of the 2 BRS summer based A321's one will return to the lessor as it's lease runs out this winter, and the other will be located at LGW next summer.
Why 757's for BRS? BRS's runway length combined with the poor 'performance' of the Airbus make route structuring difficult. I think this last weekend again saw an enroute stop for fuel on one service because the aircraft wasn't capable of making it direct. The same route on the 757 wouldn't have been an issue - it's performance is just far superior. The Airbus has some good qualities, better fuel economy than the 757 for one, but if it can't cope with the routes direct it's a waste of time.
FCA want to operate Egypt routes from BRS, can't even contemplate it with a full A321.
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: somewhere, out there...
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
First Choice Airways aircraft bases
Please could someone provide a list (not extensive) of which First Choice aircraft are based at which UK airports.
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SOUTH WEST
Posts: 257
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BRISTOL
Posts: 763
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
BRS is 1x757 with visiting 767 from feb, the 321 remains for a few weeks in to winter as crew are on swap over from airbus to boeing, in summer it will be 2x757 plus visiting 767, EXT is 1x320 winter only, CWL is 1x320 summer only, BHX is 1x757 winter 2x757 summer, EMA is 1x321 plus visiting 767 year round, STN is 1x321 year round, LTN is 1x320 year round, BFS is 1x320 year round, DUB is 1x757 year round, LGW/MAN have 320/757/767 operating winter and summer with both the ex BRS 321's being added to the equation from Dec onwards... hope this helps!
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
FCA Routes 2007
Hello all.
As far as I can tell, the following changes are being made to the Gatwick operation for 2007;
Discontinued: Croatia, Malta
New: Samana, Costa Rica, Sri Lanka
Can somebody please confirm? Any other changes? Is, as per rumour, Holguin (or Varadero?) being discontinued in favour of Bristol?
Also on a side question, FCA stop off somewhere (can't remember where) on the way back from Dubrovnik. Is this for performance constraint issues in DBV or something?
Regards,
Rob
As far as I can tell, the following changes are being made to the Gatwick operation for 2007;
Discontinued: Croatia, Malta
New: Samana, Costa Rica, Sri Lanka
Can somebody please confirm? Any other changes? Is, as per rumour, Holguin (or Varadero?) being discontinued in favour of Bristol?
Also on a side question, FCA stop off somewhere (can't remember where) on the way back from Dubrovnik. Is this for performance constraint issues in DBV or something?
Regards,
Rob
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 523
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Can somebody please confirm? Any other changes? Is, as per rumour, Holguin (or Varadero?) being discontinued in favour of Bristol?
Also on a side question, FCA stop off somewhere (can't remember where) on the way back from Dubrovnik. Is this for performance constraint issues in DBV or something?
Also on a side question, FCA stop off somewhere (can't remember where) on the way back from Dubrovnik. Is this for performance constraint issues in DBV or something?
As new routes are on offer, perhaps replaced by one of those? Sri Lanka is only new to LGW, as it's currently already operated from MAN.
DBV is scheduled to operate direct LGW on an A320.
30W
The Sunday LGW-DBV currently operates back via Split. It's for commercial reasons (operated via Zadar last year) to meet a requirement for Sunsail's sailing flotillas - that tour op is part of the FC group.
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Appreciate that. Thanks.
Can't remember where I picked up that info about the Cuba service swap. I think it was for reasons other than fleet utilisation though. Not sure.
Not surprised that DBV is operated. Croatia seems to be an emerging market. What can I say, my facts are a bit off obviously. I also doubted the Malta service ending, so still, if anyone can confirm or otherwise.
Regards,
Rob
Edit: I actually think the Malta service is operting. I think my info came from the FCA website a few months back, before schedules where confirmed. Sorry about that.
Can't remember where I picked up that info about the Cuba service swap. I think it was for reasons other than fleet utilisation though. Not sure.
Not surprised that DBV is operated. Croatia seems to be an emerging market. What can I say, my facts are a bit off obviously. I also doubted the Malta service ending, so still, if anyone can confirm or otherwise.
Regards,
Rob
Edit: I actually think the Malta service is operting. I think my info came from the FCA website a few months back, before schedules where confirmed. Sorry about that.
Last edited by rm2242; 2nd Oct 2006 at 15:26. Reason: Info