Monarch
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From: bedlam
nope, i think the passenger versions as reposessed by lease companies recently. I think Varig(2) only has 3 left in active service. All the others belong to lease companies and are hence avail for onward customers. I heard Aeroflot were getting 3x of them for freighter conversion at knock down prices to compliment a 787 order.
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From: LGW
This is great news. I hope one will go on the UK register as G-MDII which would be nice; the prospect of seeing these from my bike on my way to LGW really makes my day especially in the new livery. What is going on at MON? Now they have a 767 and now MD11's? Well done all at MON
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From: Walton on the Naze Essex.
A long, long time ago, a jolly airline made great profits from a base at Lutonium. Everyone was happy and did their checks breathing oxygen and wearing party hats from the night before...they even painted their planes in gay colours. Then they purchased huge planes to make themselves even happier, and chose ones with 11s in their nomenclature.
Now children, the moral of the story is.................................
Now children, the moral of the story is.................................
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From: UK
Lease out A330s = big profit on rentals given how tight the market is
Get rid of the A300s = saving on maintenance costs, replace with an aircraft which can do both shorthaul + pukka longhaul to cover summer + winter markets
Replace both (and possibly the 767?) with MD11s
= fleet simplification
= more flexible fleet of aircraft
= much lower capital costs than A330
= probably could up + downsize the fleet through flexible deals with lessors
OK, the -11 has higher maintenance costs and there is the one-off transition cost for crew training, aircraft introduction and engineering, but this is not an entirely barking mad proposition if that's what is under consideration.
Get rid of the A300s = saving on maintenance costs, replace with an aircraft which can do both shorthaul + pukka longhaul to cover summer + winter markets
Replace both (and possibly the 767?) with MD11s
= fleet simplification
= more flexible fleet of aircraft
= much lower capital costs than A330
= probably could up + downsize the fleet through flexible deals with lessors
OK, the -11 has higher maintenance costs and there is the one-off transition cost for crew training, aircraft introduction and engineering, but this is not an entirely barking mad proposition if that's what is under consideration.
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From: Here and there
I agree that this could be a wind up, doesn`t make sense to have yet another different a/c type on the fleet.
However on the other hand, (i really don`t know) are DC10 and MD11 type ratings anywhere near similar like those of the airbus fleets.
There are still a few at Monarch with fond memories of their DC10 and the Chief pilot is one of them!
However on the other hand, (i really don`t know) are DC10 and MD11 type ratings anywhere near similar like those of the airbus fleets.
There are still a few at Monarch with fond memories of their DC10 and the Chief pilot is one of them!
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From: EGGW
Well said Monarch Man.
The only thing that is for sure, is that nothing in this industry is for sure.
The last thing that was decided is that the A300s, B767 and A330s would be replaced, by an as yet undecided replacement aircraft type, in around 5 to 6 years time.
My understanding is that both Airbus & Boeing have provided Monarch with deals that include a new aircraft type and aircraft in the short term.
The only thing that is for sure, is that nothing in this industry is for sure.
The last thing that was decided is that the A300s, B767 and A330s would be replaced, by an as yet undecided replacement aircraft type, in around 5 to 6 years time.
My understanding is that both Airbus & Boeing have provided Monarch with deals that include a new aircraft type and aircraft in the short term.
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From: Upagumtree
Mr Spotty, you're teasing us:
the above seems to support the rumour.
My understanding is that both Airbus & Boeing have provided Monarch with deals that include a new aircraft type and aircraft in the short term.
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From: Midlands
Anything further on the possible acquisition of further bmi A321's?
jethro
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