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Another poster Airborne Junglie mentioned 2 companies who have come forward with plans to turn the airport around. Well, where were they when the doors were ready to close last November.
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Who is PwC?
I find it difficult to believe the government would take the airport on if there was an interested buyer out there - even at the 11th hour.
Also, can we keep the thread civilised please. I`m sure 99% of people who visit the thread have PIK`s best interest at heart.
I find it difficult to believe the government would take the airport on if there was an interested buyer out there - even at the 11th hour.
Also, can we keep the thread civilised please. I`m sure 99% of people who visit the thread have PIK`s best interest at heart.
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I have heard that one interested consortium would have taken the airport on but pulled out supposedly because of the fact that FR wouldn't reinstate the PIK - STN route until APD was abolished. Once that deal fell through the Scottish Government stepped in.
We're only a few weeks away until the release of the consultant's report so let's see what the recommendations are.
Until then I agree with Tiger8 in terms of keeping the thread factual and intelligent instead of the childish defensiveness and pathetic political posturing that some posters seem to take great delight in.
And as regards the push to rename the airport as Robert Burns International - not an April Fool's joke but a long standing attempt by a group of local people to move away from the Glasgow Prestwick name.
We're only a few weeks away until the release of the consultant's report so let's see what the recommendations are.
Until then I agree with Tiger8 in terms of keeping the thread factual and intelligent instead of the childish defensiveness and pathetic political posturing that some posters seem to take great delight in.
And as regards the push to rename the airport as Robert Burns International - not an April Fool's joke but a long standing attempt by a group of local people to move away from the Glasgow Prestwick name.
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PwC is Price Waterhouse Cooper who were engaged by Infratil to sell PIK and MSE.
Well that's how it was.
I find it difficult to believe the government would take the airport on if there was an interested buyer out there - even at the 11th hour.
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LNIDA -oh you sleekit timorous beastie! Actually nice to see some tongue in cheek humour - exactly what this thread needs (and im being serious!).
And FP was there any real need for the 'idiots' comment? Whilst i dont support the Robert Burns idea your so-called comment could also be aimed at the good people who decided that John Lennon, Jan Smuts, Robin Hood, Charles DeGaulle, JFK, Marco Polo, Leonardo da Vinci, George Best, John Wayne, Bob Hope ( to name but a few) should be applied to an airport.
And FP was there any real need for the 'idiots' comment? Whilst i dont support the Robert Burns idea your so-called comment could also be aimed at the good people who decided that John Lennon, Jan Smuts, Robin Hood, Charles DeGaulle, JFK, Marco Polo, Leonardo da Vinci, George Best, John Wayne, Bob Hope ( to name but a few) should be applied to an airport.
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ScotsSLF, there is a critical difference. The airports you mentioned all retained the name of the city they serve. This proposal would see Glasgow dropped from the airports name, leaving it simply as Robert Burn Airport.
The fact that the guy I seen speaking about this said something about it being a chance to put Scotland on the map as new "Scottish branded airport" shows the intelligence of the argument behind this proposal. I suppose the new name will be accompanied with a tartan logo and free short bread & whiskey for all passengers.
Call it Glasgow Robert Burns if you must, but dropping Glasgow from the name and you may as well turn the lights off now.
The fact that the guy I seen speaking about this said something about it being a chance to put Scotland on the map as new "Scottish branded airport" shows the intelligence of the argument behind this proposal. I suppose the new name will be accompanied with a tartan logo and free short bread & whiskey for all passengers.
Call it Glasgow Robert Burns if you must, but dropping Glasgow from the name and you may as well turn the lights off now.
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In fairness JFK and CDG are world airports, icons that need to introduction. Only the smallest minded of local types would have a genuine issue with Glasgow Prestwick, the post war BOAC and Trans Canada IATA approved name.....
PIK is isolated enough in terms of *inbound* marketing without losing the one recognisable (Commonwealth Games anyone) part of the name. That's a good point on PIK-STN, it was rather the rock upon which everything else was built.
The people pushing "Robert Burns" as a marketing ploy are rank amateurs, it has little resonance and like "Ayr United" and "nil" will soon become inextricably linked with "where now?" #localism
PIK is isolated enough in terms of *inbound* marketing without losing the one recognisable (Commonwealth Games anyone) part of the name. That's a good point on PIK-STN, it was rather the rock upon which everything else was built.
The people pushing "Robert Burns" as a marketing ploy are rank amateurs, it has little resonance and like "Ayr United" and "nil" will soon become inextricably linked with "where now?" #localism
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windsock are you actually going to contribute something productive to this thread or just act like a child? Please enlighten us with your version of the truth.
What I can see from the current situation is that the SG will continue to throw taxpayers money at Prestwick and allow the management who have a demonstrated past of making losses to continue to do so.
Waiting for a consultant to make recommendations while we the taxpayer continue to chuck £200k down the drain every week doesn't seem like the smart thing to do - but then I am not a politician so what do I know?
What I can see from the current situation is that the SG will continue to throw taxpayers money at Prestwick and allow the management who have a demonstrated past of making losses to continue to do so.
Waiting for a consultant to make recommendations while we the taxpayer continue to chuck £200k down the drain every week doesn't seem like the smart thing to do - but then I am not a politician so what do I know?
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The challenge here is that we do not know what is happening and there may actually be productive moves going on behind the scenes that we do not know about. Making assumptions that everyone is simply waiting for the consultant's report doesn't help anyone but I suppose its a natural response given that very little information is forthcoming.
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ScotsSLF,
Previous experience is a good indication of future performance. Under infratil the leadership did not cover themselves with glory. In the 6 months of government ownership they continue along the same path.
there should have been a major shake up in the organisation as soon as the new ownership was announced. So far the only thing that seems to have changed is that the awful pure dead brilliant sign has been taken down. Hardly seems like a valuable use of £5m of our money.
Previous experience is a good indication of future performance. Under infratil the leadership did not cover themselves with glory. In the 6 months of government ownership they continue along the same path.
there should have been a major shake up in the organisation as soon as the new ownership was announced. So far the only thing that seems to have changed is that the awful pure dead brilliant sign has been taken down. Hardly seems like a valuable use of £5m of our money.
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GCE. I agree with most of your sentiments but what I do know is that the management shake up we all crave will not happen overnight (and six months + is not unusual given that there is no official private concern to take over the place / staff as yet). I reiterate that whilst it is frustrating not to hear news and potentially see taxpayers money being used up with little obvious return there is no point moaning, groaning and making assumptions. What we do need is someone in the know to post what the facts are on here rather than the childish and political cat calling that is not helpful to anyone. Sorry about being a bit of stuck record on this but it does frustrate me enormously that so called adults need to use this forum to vent their frustrations is such an ill informed and pathetic manner.
Oh and just to get back to things aviation - my son flew to Alicante from PIK on Monday morning - texted back to say that the flight was perfect, bang on time, allocated seating on FR worked a treat and the flight was full. I know this will no doubt stimulate a few posts on yields, load factors, free landing fees, no-profit etc etc etc but what the hell - its one positive piece of factual information.
Oh and just to get back to things aviation - my son flew to Alicante from PIK on Monday morning - texted back to say that the flight was perfect, bang on time, allocated seating on FR worked a treat and the flight was full. I know this will no doubt stimulate a few posts on yields, load factors, free landing fees, no-profit etc etc etc but what the hell - its one positive piece of factual information.
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Granite thats it. Im telling on you. Im.not a child.....
Yes nothing has changed in 6 months. But im hoping after this report is finished then things eill change for the better and im sure they will. But hey what do i know im not a consultant.
Scots SLF well said in your post, its true people on here being impatient after 6 months. These people, granite and facelookbovered are so negative its unreal. Dont they know that rome wasnt built in a day.
Yes nothing has changed in 6 months. But im hoping after this report is finished then things eill change for the better and im sure they will. But hey what do i know im not a consultant.
Scots SLF well said in your post, its true people on here being impatient after 6 months. These people, granite and facelookbovered are so negative its unreal. Dont they know that rome wasnt built in a day.