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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 10:15
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.....and failing miserably
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 10:33
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Excuse my ignorance but how much is a 50% stake in Air Wales Worth ?.
The Airline has no tangible assets other than some experienced flightdeck/cabin crew ?? .

Cant See whats in it for Aurigny , or am i missing something ?
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 12:57
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couldnt you put your money into something less risky..... like building a synagogue in downtown baghdad.
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 13:36
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Companies House says: Loss for year of 9m on revenues of 5.981m for year ending 31/3/2004. No accounts yet filed for 2005 (deadline is normally end of January). Balance sheet has 7m of share capital due to be paid from shareholders, 1.5m of assets, 269k of aircraft in realisable value, and accumulated losses of 16m against share capital of 18m. 1.4m decrease in cash in year and 4.2m net debt. Cash at nil.

Auditors note fundamental uncertainty with respect to going concern.
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 14:29
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The accounts quoted are for the year ended 31 March 2004!!!

What is the point of quoting financial information that is two years out of date?

I think it also worth pointing out that the large levels of expenditure in this year (and subsequent losses) are largely to do with the introduction of the ATR fleet, which was a major investment for this operator. Start up costs in the airline business are enormous and losses are bound to be incurred in the early years.
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 18:01
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Any Idea on what the new name will be if the re-branding does take place?
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 18:40
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What is the point of quoting financial information that is two years out of date?
It is quite clear for which period they relate; it is also clear that there is no further accounting information filed at the moment - this is patently late for one reason or another.

The information was posted in response to someone asking what they could be worth in terms of assets to a buyer.

I think it also worth pointing out that the large levels of expenditure in this year (and subsequent losses) are largely to do with the introduction of the ATR fleet, which was a major investment for this operator. Start up costs in the airline business are enormous and losses are bound to be incurred in the early years.
That is why there is accrual accounting. Cash is king in the startup years rather than profits, and as noted at the time of those accounts, they have none.

Don't get so defensive!
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 18:56
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Originally Posted by WOWBOY
Any Idea on what the new name will be if the re-branding does take place?
Aurigny i would imagine !!
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 19:05
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I cannot believe how many vultures are hovering over this one with glee, especially a certain poster who got his first airline job with them.
It seems so many of you want this all to go under, what an airline going under means is people out of work with kids to feed and mortgages to pay.
The intense delight that certain of you take in the problems of one airline astonishes me.

They always say what comes around goes around, perhaps one day the airline you are now with gets into a position of uncertainty, I hope you equally then enjoy the barbed comments made by ex employees on forum websites.

I for one hope that in whatever format it can that it will survive, there are some excellent people flying with the company whom I have enjoyed many a diet coke with.
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 20:03
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whats wrong with pepsi max?
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 21:02
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Hmmm, cue sight of tumbleweed and sound of church bell tolling in the distance.

Humour, NSR is not your forte
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 21:05
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point taken, ill get me coat
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 21:38
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well said flower
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Old 23rd Mar 2006, 10:59
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MEETING TODAY??

APPARENTLY A MEETING IS ABOUT TO BEGIN AT 1200 WITH ALLCON INVITED??
AN ANNOUNCEMENT IS EXPECTED, HOPE FOR THE BEST EVERYONE. GOOD LUCK ALL AT AWW!
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Old 23rd Mar 2006, 11:27
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Its not good :(

Rumour is it's all over, all staff given 1 months notice, all deals off. Air wales will cease to exist in 1 month. I am genuinely sorry to all staff and people who have put years of work into aww. I really feel for all of you. Best of Luck to all.

Please note: rumour!!
sorry if it's incorrect.
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Old 23rd Mar 2006, 11:45
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Devil Very Sad

Another sad day for aviation if this information is correct.

Some of us do know what its like to be told the door will close in one month.

Lets hope something might still come up with a possible late deal.
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Old 23rd Mar 2006, 11:58
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If its true then yes it is a sad day, not just for the Airline, but the country losing its flag carrier!
On the other side of things it leaves a gap for someone - existing or new?
If they know what their doing, they could be onto a winner!
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Old 23rd Mar 2006, 12:02
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Suppose the next rumour is what operator will pick up the half decent routes
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Old 23rd Mar 2006, 12:04
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A very sad day indeed for all concerned especially all the staff and RT but also for all of us who have enjoyed working with Air Wales for the last 5 years at Cardiff Airport

The flight crews have always been great fun as well as doing a professional job, the cabin crew always welcoming and i best not forget all the backroom staff.

I hope you all go on to find good jobs, who knows maybe even with someone coming into fill the void that desperately needs filling.

Good luck and all the very best you will be missed
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Old 23rd Mar 2006, 12:11
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I would have considered the NCL route a good one. The route could work even better on a smaller a/c with a greater frequency, but not T3. There far too expensive
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