Ryanair: "Revolution". Charge for baggage
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Originally Posted by Hial Flyer
You can already print your own boarding pass at home when flying with BA. They scan it at security to confirm its validity.
Incidentally, all fares are going to be £2.50 less? So when I book a 10p fare and travel with hand baggage only, the nice hostie is going to come to my seat and give me £2.40? Tell you what, I'll settle for a couple of tubs of Pringles
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Not many FR airports have such electronic Boarding Pass Scanners..... Can't see them getting them either if the costs knowing the costs of same. So who will check the new Boarding CArds for all the correect details......Security Staff at Friskim????? Are they going to check passports????? Are they going to argue with pax and advise that the name is not matching and insist on them going back to check-in for name change and appropriate fee???
The bottleneck here will just escalate with more staff needed to deal with more bags etc. What about Security Questions...."did u pack it yourself / have u been asked to carry anthing on behalf of a 3rd party" etc????
PAx will no longer arrive -2 hrs for flight and if all adopt the policy of arriving -1 hrs then security queues will build up again and the airports will get the blame for the shambles!!!
20 minute turnarounds~?????? It will take 15 mins to clear the plane on arrival as everyone pull and drags bags from overhead lockers!!! No way will they make 20 mins turnarounds...this is where it will hurt MOL and airports can expect a rainforest of Memos about that!!!
The bottleneck here will just escalate with more staff needed to deal with more bags etc. What about Security Questions...."did u pack it yourself / have u been asked to carry anthing on behalf of a 3rd party" etc????
PAx will no longer arrive -2 hrs for flight and if all adopt the policy of arriving -1 hrs then security queues will build up again and the airports will get the blame for the shambles!!!
20 minute turnarounds~?????? It will take 15 mins to clear the plane on arrival as everyone pull and drags bags from overhead lockers!!! No way will they make 20 mins turnarounds...this is where it will hurt MOL and airports can expect a rainforest of Memos about that!!!
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Originally Posted by Sikpupi
Not many FR airports have such electronic Boarding Pass Scanners..... Can't see them getting them either if the costs knowing the costs of same. So who will check the new Boarding CArds for all the correect details......Security Staff at Friskim????? Are they going to check passports????? Are they going to argue with pax and advise that the name is not matching and insist on them going back to check-in for name change and appropriate fee???
The bottleneck here will just escalate with more staff needed to deal with more bags etc. What about Security Questions...."did u pack it yourself / have u been asked to carry anthing on behalf of a 3rd party" etc????
PAx will no longer arrive -2 hrs for flight and if all adopt the policy of arriving -1 hrs then security queues will build up again and the airports will get the blame for the shambles!!!
20 minute turnarounds~?????? It will take 15 mins to clear the plane on arrival as everyone pull and drags bags from overhead lockers!!! No way will they make 20 mins turnarounds...this is where it will hurt MOL and airports can expect a rainforest of Memos about that!!!
The bottleneck here will just escalate with more staff needed to deal with more bags etc. What about Security Questions...."did u pack it yourself / have u been asked to carry anthing on behalf of a 3rd party" etc????
PAx will no longer arrive -2 hrs for flight and if all adopt the policy of arriving -1 hrs then security queues will build up again and the airports will get the blame for the shambles!!!
20 minute turnarounds~?????? It will take 15 mins to clear the plane on arrival as everyone pull and drags bags from overhead lockers!!! No way will they make 20 mins turnarounds...this is where it will hurt MOL and airports can expect a rainforest of Memos about that!!!
I believe security will only be checking the boarding cards, not if you have the correct ID. The ID check will be done at the gate, if you don't have the correct/valid ID then you will be offloaded from that flight and as you have no hold luggage I guess this shouldn't cause too much bother.
Do they still need to ask the security baggage questions if you haven't got hold luggage? Even if you do, I suspect you will answer 'yes' or 'no' while checking in online.
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Maybe I am just showing my age or I am missing the point but most of what has been discussed spells disaster for the poor hard working ground staff at the various airports.
1. OLCI is all very well but is the whole point of CHECK IN so that the airline know who has actually reported at the airport for the flight. It probably works for some carriers where a small number of pax use OLCI. However, if you are now talking about the majority of pax on the flight using OLCI how the hell are you supposed to know who you are waiting for if you don't actually know how many people have physically arrived at the airport. Do you start wielding the off-load axe at -30, or whenever, and in the process end up offloading a substantial number of pax who may well be in the airport resulting in many disgruntled pax?
2. A 20 min turn round with all this cabin baggage lark is just never going to happen. it has obviously been dreamt up by someone who has never been near an airport in a professional capacity in their life. After you have spent several minutes checking/arguing that all cabin baggage is within/outwith the limits......
Ding Ding Round 2 .... all those. and i suspect there may well be quite a few, will then be told that their luggage must go in the hold. After a protracted argument about this are the gate staff then expected to spend even more time collecting charges?
and all this is before you take into account that the flight is already delayed because a passenger on the inbound sector suffered a fractured skull from all the extra cabin baggage falling out and had to be collected from the a/c by ambulance.
Sounds like a sound operational strategy to me...... NOT
1. OLCI is all very well but is the whole point of CHECK IN so that the airline know who has actually reported at the airport for the flight. It probably works for some carriers where a small number of pax use OLCI. However, if you are now talking about the majority of pax on the flight using OLCI how the hell are you supposed to know who you are waiting for if you don't actually know how many people have physically arrived at the airport. Do you start wielding the off-load axe at -30, or whenever, and in the process end up offloading a substantial number of pax who may well be in the airport resulting in many disgruntled pax?
2. A 20 min turn round with all this cabin baggage lark is just never going to happen. it has obviously been dreamt up by someone who has never been near an airport in a professional capacity in their life. After you have spent several minutes checking/arguing that all cabin baggage is within/outwith the limits......
Ding Ding Round 2 .... all those. and i suspect there may well be quite a few, will then be told that their luggage must go in the hold. After a protracted argument about this are the gate staff then expected to spend even more time collecting charges?
and all this is before you take into account that the flight is already delayed because a passenger on the inbound sector suffered a fractured skull from all the extra cabin baggage falling out and had to be collected from the a/c by ambulance.
Sounds like a sound operational strategy to me...... NOT
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Wash Bags
What about the 60% or so of FR pax who might carry a wash kit, which could contain a nail clippers or scissors? Seen as a potential safety issue...
When will it occur that a wash kit may or may not be acceptable as on board luggage? If not acceptable, will it then have to be placed in the hold at the last minute - with a delay whilst the €3.50 becomes payable at the gate?
It's all a con for pax. The .99c flight which includes hold luggage of 15kg is now reduced to ~.90c plus an additional charge of €3.50 per bag. Whats that, an overall increase of approximately 350%(!) Well, at least the MOL & the shareholders should be happy.
Will it work though? IMO, it's just pushed the limit too far. It has presumably been thrashed out in the great envions and so will be made to work, but....
When will it occur that a wash kit may or may not be acceptable as on board luggage? If not acceptable, will it then have to be placed in the hold at the last minute - with a delay whilst the €3.50 becomes payable at the gate?
It's all a con for pax. The .99c flight which includes hold luggage of 15kg is now reduced to ~.90c plus an additional charge of €3.50 per bag. Whats that, an overall increase of approximately 350%(!) Well, at least the MOL & the shareholders should be happy.
Will it work though? IMO, it's just pushed the limit too far. It has presumably been thrashed out in the great envions and so will be made to work, but....
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Originally Posted by Lee-a-Roady Moor
with a delay whilst the €3.50 becomes payable at the gate?
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Originally Posted by tom de luxe
"That'll be € 7.00, thank you very much, you didn't register your hold bagage in advance."
Fast becoming the Chavs & Chavettes airline of choice.
Avoid luggage charges! It's only a weekend away. No need to bring that change of clothes or wash bag..! Bars of soap? Nah, only adds to me weight allowance, guv!
Luckily those leather seats should be easier to clean...
