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Today PIA flight PK214 operated by leased aircraft of MNG Turkish registered and crew while doing a circle to land at OPKC landed at Air force base FAISAL next to OPKC
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Around the early 60's a TWA cpt. successfully landed his 707 at Ohio State University airport (now KOSU).
His intended destination was ten mile east, at Port Columbus (KCMH).
In honor of the event, the KOSU coffee shop was renamed the "707 Room".
His intended destination was ten mile east, at Port Columbus (KCMH).
In honor of the event, the KOSU coffee shop was renamed the "707 Room".
Huh - at the last Farnborough Airshow that famously accurate organisation the USAF deployed a B52 whose display was (distantly) visible to the Farnborough crowd - because it was performed over Blackbushe, 5-6 miles away 'beyond the black sheds'. It raised a smile and was good for morale - the British crowd really enjoyed it.
Hey ho - yes - that kind of GPS-confusing haze ...
Never forget that history is experience teaching by example, so "blah, blah, blah, whenever..." might be comfortably dismissive, but ignoring examples sees ghastly error repeated... And this began as a larf.
Never forget that history is experience teaching by example, so "blah, blah, blah, whenever..." might be comfortably dismissive, but ignoring examples sees ghastly error repeated... And this began as a larf.
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Was at Boscombe Down a few years ago and recall an ETPS student on a night sortie making an approach to Porton Down, mistaking the lights there for the runway. Could've been very embarassing! 
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So we can all sleep soundly in our beds,knowing the US is on our side.
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Edited to say I am NOT the thread creep!
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Here are more details from the daily dawn
http://www.dawn.com/2005/12/17/top8.htm
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http://www.dawn.com/2005/12/17/top8.htm
PIA flight lands at PAF Faisal Base
By Our Staff Reporter
KARACHI, Dec 16: A Boeing 737 landed on Friday at the PAF Faisal Base instead of the Quaid-i-Azam International Airport. Sources said that the Dubai-Karachi flight PK-214 of the Pakistan International Airlines, carrying 142 passengers, landed at the PAF base owing to pilot’s error and negligence of the air traffic controller at the Jinnah terminal.
The Boeing 737 was one of the five aircraft recently acquired by the PIA on wet lease from a Turkish company mainly for Haj operation. The aircraft carries the monogram of the Turkish company.
The sources said an inquiry had been initiated by the Civil Aviation Authority and the Turkish pilot, Erol Kastar, was sent to a pathological laboratory where his blood samples were obtained for test.
Under the international aviation rules a pilot is not allowed to fly if he or she has more than 20 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood. The rules ban pilots from having alcohol eight hours before reporting for duty.
The sources said that the PIA flight, which had the Turkish crew including a woman co-pilot, landed at the Faisal Base at 12:53pm. The security officials at the base immediately cordoned off the aircraft, which was later allowed to take off at 1:21pm for the Quaid-i-Azam International Airport. The plane landed at the airport at 1:33pm.
The sources said that the pilot contacted the radar approach controller when the plane was around 50 miles from Karachi for vectoring.
The aircraft was around four miles away from the Karachi airport, when the pilot informed the radar controller that he was visible with the runway, they added.
The sources said that the radar approach controller asked the pilot to change over his frequency to the control tower for landing instructions. The pilot contacted the tower controller, who gave him clearance for landing after ascertaining that the pilot was visible with the runway. However, the pilot landed the plane on the PAF base.
“The pilot seems to be unfamiliar with the layout of the Quaid-i-Azam International Airport, or he was not imparted necessary training by PIA,” they added.
The sources said that the pilot might have confused the runway of the Karachi airport with that of the PAF Faisal Base due to a recent change in the direction of landing and take off. Aircraft usually land from the Malir side, they said.
Insiders said the tower controller gave clearance to the pilot without actually seeing the aircraft. They said the air traffic controller was apparently overworked due to the extra-ordinary security arrangements on the runway for the prime minister’s plane, which was expected to arrive at 2pm.
The sources said air traffic controllers were already over-burdened due to staff shortage and many of them were not even getting their weekly offs for the past 25 days.
Meanwhile, a PIA press release said: “A Boeing 737 aircraft owned by MNG and flown by Turkish company pilots, on wet lease to PIA, flying from Dubai to Karachi, inadvertently landed safely at the PAF Faisal Base at around 12:50pm on Friday.
After about one hour and due coordination with the PAF, the aircraft was flown to Jinnah terminal. The cockpit crew had been withdrawn from flying duties with PIA.
An enquiry was being conducted to ascertain the facts.
PIA regretted the inconvenience that might have been caused to passengers and relatives as a result of the above inordinate delay, the press release said.
By Our Staff Reporter
KARACHI, Dec 16: A Boeing 737 landed on Friday at the PAF Faisal Base instead of the Quaid-i-Azam International Airport. Sources said that the Dubai-Karachi flight PK-214 of the Pakistan International Airlines, carrying 142 passengers, landed at the PAF base owing to pilot’s error and negligence of the air traffic controller at the Jinnah terminal.
The Boeing 737 was one of the five aircraft recently acquired by the PIA on wet lease from a Turkish company mainly for Haj operation. The aircraft carries the monogram of the Turkish company.
The sources said an inquiry had been initiated by the Civil Aviation Authority and the Turkish pilot, Erol Kastar, was sent to a pathological laboratory where his blood samples were obtained for test.
Under the international aviation rules a pilot is not allowed to fly if he or she has more than 20 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood. The rules ban pilots from having alcohol eight hours before reporting for duty.
The sources said that the PIA flight, which had the Turkish crew including a woman co-pilot, landed at the Faisal Base at 12:53pm. The security officials at the base immediately cordoned off the aircraft, which was later allowed to take off at 1:21pm for the Quaid-i-Azam International Airport. The plane landed at the airport at 1:33pm.
The sources said that the pilot contacted the radar approach controller when the plane was around 50 miles from Karachi for vectoring.
The aircraft was around four miles away from the Karachi airport, when the pilot informed the radar controller that he was visible with the runway, they added.
The sources said that the radar approach controller asked the pilot to change over his frequency to the control tower for landing instructions. The pilot contacted the tower controller, who gave him clearance for landing after ascertaining that the pilot was visible with the runway. However, the pilot landed the plane on the PAF base.
“The pilot seems to be unfamiliar with the layout of the Quaid-i-Azam International Airport, or he was not imparted necessary training by PIA,” they added.
The sources said that the pilot might have confused the runway of the Karachi airport with that of the PAF Faisal Base due to a recent change in the direction of landing and take off. Aircraft usually land from the Malir side, they said.
Insiders said the tower controller gave clearance to the pilot without actually seeing the aircraft. They said the air traffic controller was apparently overworked due to the extra-ordinary security arrangements on the runway for the prime minister’s plane, which was expected to arrive at 2pm.
The sources said air traffic controllers were already over-burdened due to staff shortage and many of them were not even getting their weekly offs for the past 25 days.
Meanwhile, a PIA press release said: “A Boeing 737 aircraft owned by MNG and flown by Turkish company pilots, on wet lease to PIA, flying from Dubai to Karachi, inadvertently landed safely at the PAF Faisal Base at around 12:50pm on Friday.
After about one hour and due coordination with the PAF, the aircraft was flown to Jinnah terminal. The cockpit crew had been withdrawn from flying duties with PIA.
An enquiry was being conducted to ascertain the facts.
PIA regretted the inconvenience that might have been caused to passengers and relatives as a result of the above inordinate delay, the press release said.
iwalkedaway; Genghis; fernytickles:
There were two occurences at Farnborough shows, the first being a B1 not a B2 back in about '98 I think. In this case ATC advised the pilot he was heading for the wrong airfield but for reasons known only to himself, he didn't respond to heading instructions.
The B52 in'04 was entirely differrent, his turn onto the runway for his run-in coincided with opening the throttles (8 don't forget) to accelerate to his fly-by speed resulting in his overshooting the runway centreline by a considerable margin, inertia of the aircraft was so great it wasn't possible for him to re-position, hence to onlookers he appeared to have found the wrong airfield!
Needless to say, this wasn't repeated, so I don't know where spanishflea got his info.
There were two occurences at Farnborough shows, the first being a B1 not a B2 back in about '98 I think. In this case ATC advised the pilot he was heading for the wrong airfield but for reasons known only to himself, he didn't respond to heading instructions.
The B52 in'04 was entirely differrent, his turn onto the runway for his run-in coincided with opening the throttles (8 don't forget) to accelerate to his fly-by speed resulting in his overshooting the runway centreline by a considerable margin, inertia of the aircraft was so great it wasn't possible for him to re-position, hence to onlookers he appeared to have found the wrong airfield!
Needless to say, this wasn't repeated, so I don't know where spanishflea got his info.
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seem to recall a Sabena 737 landing at Woodford too
(early 80s maybe).
In fact given the relative proximity of Woodford and the almost parallel orientation of the runways, I'm surprised it hasn't happened more often.
(early 80s maybe).
In fact given the relative proximity of Woodford and the almost parallel orientation of the runways, I'm surprised it hasn't happened more often.
I'm always faintly (only faintly) amused by airline PR releases like the ones here where an aircraft operated by a codeshare partner, a commuter carrier, or (as in this Pakistan instance) leased in comes to the attention of the press.
The main airline release always starts with the fact that the aircraft belongs to the minor organisation, and gets several additional comments on this in, before saying at the end of the sentence that it was operating the mainstream airline's flight.
The company operating the aircraft always starts by stating the flight number, route, etc of the mainstream airline, and only says at the end that it was their own aircraft.
Each is trying to do a "nothing to do with me" comment. As they often hit the media very rapidly indeed, the texts must be prepared in advance.
The main airline release always starts with the fact that the aircraft belongs to the minor organisation, and gets several additional comments on this in, before saying at the end of the sentence that it was operating the mainstream airline's flight.
The company operating the aircraft always starts by stating the flight number, route, etc of the mainstream airline, and only says at the end that it was their own aircraft.
Each is trying to do a "nothing to do with me" comment. As they often hit the media very rapidly indeed, the texts must be prepared in advance.