Low stocks of JetA-1 at LHR?
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Low stocks of JetA-1 at LHR?
Daily Mirror reporting 30% reduction in JetA-1 stocks at LHR and Airlines being asked to fill their tanks elsewhere.
Is there any operational impact for anyone?
Is there any operational impact for anyone?
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I was there yeasterday around noon, and the rep told us that the burning depot supplyed 25% of LHR fuel but "everybody is bringing in their own" she said, but that naturally only appl to the shorthaul traffi
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Latest we have from Air BP
This is managed by Heathrow airport, it applies to all customers and all airlines. Air BP (through our into-plane pool) is merely executing the protocol, as will all other oil suppliers. Heathrow airport will have communicated the protocol directly to all affected airlines.
The rationing is effective immediately, with exception for aircraft currently en route to LHR. The duration is undetermined sofar.
We confirm that 30% shortage of supply is applicable.
This implies:
a 15% reduction for Long Haul home based carriers
a 36% reduction for Short Haul home based carriers
a 36% reduction for Long Haul visiting carriers
a 60% reduction for Short Haul visiting carriers
Long Haul is defined as longer than 5 hours.
Air BP is working with the other suppliers at LHR to seek alternative fuel supply to the airport.
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This is managed by Heathrow airport, it applies to all customers and all airlines. Air BP (through our into-plane pool) is merely executing the protocol, as will all other oil suppliers. Heathrow airport will have communicated the protocol directly to all affected airlines.
The rationing is effective immediately, with exception for aircraft currently en route to LHR. The duration is undetermined sofar.
We confirm that 30% shortage of supply is applicable.
This implies:
a 15% reduction for Long Haul home based carriers
a 36% reduction for Short Haul home based carriers
a 36% reduction for Long Haul visiting carriers
a 60% reduction for Short Haul visiting carriers
Long Haul is defined as longer than 5 hours.
Air BP is working with the other suppliers at LHR to seek alternative fuel supply to the airport.
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The Notam !!
AGA : Q)EGTT/QFULT/IV/NBO/A/000/999/5129N00028W005
FROM 05/12/13 18:33 TO 05/12/31 23:59 EST A2706/05
E)HEATHROW AIRPORT IS EXPERIENCING REDUCED DELIVERIES OF JET FUEL.
IN ORDER TO ENSURE CONTINUANCE OF OPS, THE ARRANGEMENTS AGREED IN THE
DRAFT HEATHROW FUEL CONTINGENCY PLAN (HFCP) WILL APPLY WIE.
THERE ARE SOME RESERVE STOCKS, BUT THESE NEED TO BE BEST USED IN
ORDER TO SAFEGUARD OPS.
ALL INBOUND ACFT WILL MAXIMISE TANKERING OPPORTUNITIES. IN ADDITION
TO TANKERING, FUEL RESTRICTIONS WILL ALSO APPLY.
USING THE HFCP, EACH CARRIER WILL, ON A DAILY BASIS, BE ALLOCATED A
PERCENTAGE OF THE PREVIOUS WEEKS TOTAL UPLIFT. THIS ALLOCATION CAN BE
USED AT AIRLINES DISCRETION.
ALL DEPARTING ACFT WILL RECIEVE FUEL, BUT ON A REDUCED BASIS -
(REFLECTING NORMAL CONTINGENCY PRACTICE WORLDWIDE). THE FOLLWING
RESTRICTIONS APPLY:
VISITING CARRIERS
FLTS UP TO 5 HR DURATION WILL RECIEVE 40 PER CENT OF NORMAL UPLIFT
FLTS OVER 5 HR DURATION WILL RECIEVE 64 PER CENT OF NORMAL UPLIFT
BASE CARRIERS
IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE OPERATIONAL INTEGRITY OF THE AIRFIELD AND
ENSURE STAND AVAILABILITY THE 3 BASE CARRIERS WILL HAVE THE FOLLOWING
ALLOCATION:
FLTS UP TO 5 HR DURATION WILL RECIEVE 64 PER CENT OF NORMAL UPLIFT
FLTS OVER 5 HR DURATION WILL RECIEVE 85 PER CENT OF NORMAL UPLIFT
CONSIDERATION WILL BE GIVEN TO LONG RANGE AIRLINES WHO NEED TO
ESTABLISH INTERIM OPERATIONAL ARRANGEMENTS. AIRLINES IN THIS CATEGORY
SHOULD CONTACT THE AIRSIDE BUSINESS RECOVERY TEAM ON 0208 745 7582 TO
ESTABLISH AN AGREEMENT.
THE SITUATION WILL BE MONITORED DAILY AND AIRLINES PERFORMANCE
MEASURED, WITH NOTAM ISSUED AS REQUIRED.
FOR INFO, THE FOLLOWING WILL NOT BE AFFECTED:
- ACFT HAVING ALREADY DEPARTED THEIR LAST POINT INBOUND TO HEATHROW
ON 13 DEC 05
- LONG RANGE ACFT ALREADY ON THE GROUND AT HEATHROW ON 13 DEC 05
WE APPEAL TO ALL OPERATORS TO WORK WITH US TO MAINTAIN THE HEATHROW
OPERATION
FROM 05/12/13 18:33 TO 05/12/31 23:59 EST A2706/05
E)HEATHROW AIRPORT IS EXPERIENCING REDUCED DELIVERIES OF JET FUEL.
IN ORDER TO ENSURE CONTINUANCE OF OPS, THE ARRANGEMENTS AGREED IN THE
DRAFT HEATHROW FUEL CONTINGENCY PLAN (HFCP) WILL APPLY WIE.
THERE ARE SOME RESERVE STOCKS, BUT THESE NEED TO BE BEST USED IN
ORDER TO SAFEGUARD OPS.
ALL INBOUND ACFT WILL MAXIMISE TANKERING OPPORTUNITIES. IN ADDITION
TO TANKERING, FUEL RESTRICTIONS WILL ALSO APPLY.
USING THE HFCP, EACH CARRIER WILL, ON A DAILY BASIS, BE ALLOCATED A
PERCENTAGE OF THE PREVIOUS WEEKS TOTAL UPLIFT. THIS ALLOCATION CAN BE
USED AT AIRLINES DISCRETION.
ALL DEPARTING ACFT WILL RECIEVE FUEL, BUT ON A REDUCED BASIS -
(REFLECTING NORMAL CONTINGENCY PRACTICE WORLDWIDE). THE FOLLWING
RESTRICTIONS APPLY:
VISITING CARRIERS
FLTS UP TO 5 HR DURATION WILL RECIEVE 40 PER CENT OF NORMAL UPLIFT
FLTS OVER 5 HR DURATION WILL RECIEVE 64 PER CENT OF NORMAL UPLIFT
BASE CARRIERS
IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE OPERATIONAL INTEGRITY OF THE AIRFIELD AND
ENSURE STAND AVAILABILITY THE 3 BASE CARRIERS WILL HAVE THE FOLLOWING
ALLOCATION:
FLTS UP TO 5 HR DURATION WILL RECIEVE 64 PER CENT OF NORMAL UPLIFT
FLTS OVER 5 HR DURATION WILL RECIEVE 85 PER CENT OF NORMAL UPLIFT
CONSIDERATION WILL BE GIVEN TO LONG RANGE AIRLINES WHO NEED TO
ESTABLISH INTERIM OPERATIONAL ARRANGEMENTS. AIRLINES IN THIS CATEGORY
SHOULD CONTACT THE AIRSIDE BUSINESS RECOVERY TEAM ON 0208 745 7582 TO
ESTABLISH AN AGREEMENT.
THE SITUATION WILL BE MONITORED DAILY AND AIRLINES PERFORMANCE
MEASURED, WITH NOTAM ISSUED AS REQUIRED.
FOR INFO, THE FOLLOWING WILL NOT BE AFFECTED:
- ACFT HAVING ALREADY DEPARTED THEIR LAST POINT INBOUND TO HEATHROW
ON 13 DEC 05
- LONG RANGE ACFT ALREADY ON THE GROUND AT HEATHROW ON 13 DEC 05
WE APPEAL TO ALL OPERATORS TO WORK WITH US TO MAINTAIN THE HEATHROW
OPERATION
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Can't see the septics kicking up too much of a stink about this particular force majeur. The only routes it's likely to affect are the non-stop LAX and SFO. AA and UA have plenty more short routes from the East coast that they can use to tanker in fuel and thus divert the majority of their fuel ration to the long range stuff. BA are already tankering in 40T/27T on their 744/777s respectively, it's not like they're gaining a competitive advantage.
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septics kicking up too much of a stink
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I assume you mean sceptics, as septics always kick up a stink if the lid is off!
Septic tanks= Yanks
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septics kicking up too much of a stink
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I assume you mean sceptics, as septics always kick up a stink if the lid is off!
Septic tanks= Yanks
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Swedish - apologies - we sometimes forget that not all of the world understands British "Cockney Rhyming Slang"
Apples & Pears = Stairs
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Septic Tanks = Yanks
But it looks like ther's a serious problem - hopefully all those relying on heating oil "back home" this Christmas will not be freezing, and that the airline industry does not have yet another major set-back in already troubled times.
Good luck to all (from where it's 23 and drops to a frigid 10 degrees at night and I complain bitterly
Apples & Pears = Stairs
Trouble and Strife = Wife
Septic Tanks = Yanks
But it looks like ther's a serious problem - hopefully all those relying on heating oil "back home" this Christmas will not be freezing, and that the airline industry does not have yet another major set-back in already troubled times.
Good luck to all (from where it's 23 and drops to a frigid 10 degrees at night and I complain bitterly
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Some foreign Long Haul carriers are appealing the decision to treat foreign and local carriers differently (64% vs 85%).
Although I can see the logic in the decision, one should be very careful that, in the future, this doesnt come back to bite BA/VS
SYD - for example - has 'fuel rationing' for a period almost every year (due to refining capacity) and all carriers are treated the same (including QF).
BA/VS might find that the current situation is setting a precedent that my come back to haunt them.
Aviation, as we are all aware, has a long memory.
Cathay are planning on Tech Stops in AMS I understand. The only people that will be happy will be the plane-spotters!
Although I can see the logic in the decision, one should be very careful that, in the future, this doesnt come back to bite BA/VS
SYD - for example - has 'fuel rationing' for a period almost every year (due to refining capacity) and all carriers are treated the same (including QF).
BA/VS might find that the current situation is setting a precedent that my come back to haunt them.
Aviation, as we are all aware, has a long memory.
Cathay are planning on Tech Stops in AMS I understand. The only people that will be happy will be the plane-spotters!
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If you are routing North to US or Canadian West Coast surely makes more sense to pop in Manchester...?
We have lots of fuel and fast turn around ......and its probably cheaper than STN
all diversions gratefully rec'd as ever !
We have lots of fuel and fast turn around ......and its probably cheaper than STN
all diversions gratefully rec'd as ever !
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Manchester?? Fast turn round?????????????????????
Is that the Manchester just off the M56 or a different one to the one that has WIP all over the place, chronic congection due illogical taxiway planning and Handling that (deleted on legal advice)?
The only thing holding the place together is the exceelent GMC guys who were presumably world class jugglers in a previous life.
Is that the Manchester just off the M56 or a different one to the one that has WIP all over the place, chronic congection due illogical taxiway planning and Handling that (deleted on legal advice)?
The only thing holding the place together is the exceelent GMC guys who were presumably world class jugglers in a previous life.
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Am I missing something ??? we are talking about Stansted ??? Surely if they have got enough surpolus fuel, it would be cheaper and easier to tanker it by road to LHR, than to fly a 747 and pax to Stansted. ????
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How many road tankers do you thing it takes to haul 100 tonnes of fuel to LHR? Now multiply that by the number of 747s going to STN to refuel. Then factor in the time it takes to offload this fuel into the LHR system following all the quality checks on each and every tankerload. Then repeat this everyday until fuel stocks are back to normal. You get the picture?
I bet the duty hours are going to be interesting on a two sector duty with the a 13 hour second sector!
I bet the duty hours are going to be interesting on a two sector duty with the a 13 hour second sector!