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Old 16th Dec 2005, 11:12
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CX are running at least one of thier flights thorugh AMS on the eastbound journey
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Old 16th Dec 2005, 11:27
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who appear do inadequate planning for major disasters and interruptions of vital supplies.
It seems strange to be defending BAA but it would appear that a plan for interruptions of vital supplies is exactly what they had and what is being implemented now. It seems to bw working quite well.
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Old 17th Dec 2005, 18:50
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been there yesterday,4hrs flight inbound and 2.30 hrs flight back to home (nice headwind.. .)
I've been tankering fuel,and took only 2.5 T from LHR.
But I've asked the fueling guy what does he know about any limitations regarding fueling operations,he doesn't know.Well,can I take 10T? Don't know..But my operations had informed me the max is 2.5T ,so...
But he told me that most a/c came with a lot of fuel,..Jamaica 330 landed with 95T ,and an Air Canada,landing with a lot of fuel,and with strong gusts,ws, blow some tires 2 days ago..
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Old 17th Dec 2005, 19:28
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Alexban...

Air Jamaica dont operate A330's...but should you mean the A340, then i dont think they landed with 95T of fuel, got a feeling that this might just put him over his Maximum Landing Weight .

Of course i am willing to be corrected should i be wrong.
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Old 17th Dec 2005, 21:28
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Air Canada claimed strong gusts and w/s. Actually bullsh1t, I was immediately behind him on the approach and had to go around due to the debris on the runway, there was no adverse weather, it was comfortably first solo weather.

Whether they were claiming the apparent adverse weather caused them to not attempt a CDA or some erractic localiser tracking I really don't know. After following the approach I was not at all surprised at the result.
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Old 18th Dec 2005, 07:16
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Manofman,i stand corrected,i just told what the fuelling guy told me,and I'm not sure about the jamaica type,i guess he said 330 about air canada.
QAR I don't know about thursday,but on friday I had some work landing the 737,with speed going from Vref to placard speed,and them only saying 10 kts windshear at 1000' .
But you were right behind him,so you should know better.Maybe it was a short burst of wind,right at touchdown,added the max landing..
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Old 18th Dec 2005, 09:32
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With all these tech stops and ferrying fuel for LHR operations, can anyone guess how much extra is being used.

A Million Litres a day may be.???

About time Airlines forced to use other Airports until fuel problem fixed.

Does anybody know how long problem will last.???

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Old 18th Dec 2005, 09:53
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someone said the problem could last 6 months to 1 year....
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Old 19th Dec 2005, 02:06
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As this wasn't caused by the airlines involved, and I would guess that there must be some service level agreements in place with the fuel suppliers affected, and, that force majeur (act of god as I understand it) hasn't been proven yet, I wonder if there will be some hefty compensation claims from the likes of BA and QF.....
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Old 20th Dec 2005, 15:00
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Spoke to one of our ASIG refuellers at LHR who said problem will be with us for 12-15 months!
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Old 21st Jan 2006, 17:55
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Can anyone give an update on the LHR fuel shortages, interested in what Thai airways and particularly Eva are having to do at the moment, SLF to BKK next week.
TIA
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Old 22nd Jan 2006, 07:44
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The fuel situation at LHR hasn't changed much since the Buncefield fire, and the present information is:
Due to the events at Buncefield LHR fuel supply has been reduced by about 30 per cent. A NOTAM has been issued requiring all airlines operating into LHR to maximise fuel uplift from originating stations.
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Old 22nd Jan 2006, 09:26
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Thanks preppy.
Anyone know if the Eva 777-300ER could tanker a reasonable amount of fuel into LHR for it's return flight to BKK, enough to make up the 30% shortfall?
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Old 23rd Jan 2006, 05:22
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As far as I know, the need for tech stopping by some airlines has been pretty much eliminated now......most carriers have settled into the required pattern in terms of inbound tankering which has reduced demand sufficiently such that operations are pretty much unaffected.....certainly as far as flight schedules are concerned, though the airline number-crunchers might have a different view!!
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Old 23rd Jan 2006, 17:46
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QF still operate one flight a day via STN
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